Warriors (15-7) @ Raptors (18-4) | 11/29/18 | 5:00PM PST

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  1. bada

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    Sorry guys.... I BLOW at getting game threads up. Man, I miss Xbay!!! Anyone know how he is by the way?

    Bizzare seeing the Warriors 8.5 UNDERDOGS
     
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    Holy crap...The Raptors are 18-4!!! This will be a good challenge tonight.

    I was thinking about xbay the other day, been so long since he was here. Do you have any updates on him Rob? Sure hope his life is good.
     
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    no, haven't heard from him in a while. I suppose its just marriage and work life that's keeping him busy.

    Looking forward to this game. been off the radar for a about a week, so ready to settle back in.
     
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    I am SO out of touch with the league. I have NO IDEA who P. Saikam is. Never heard of him. Pretty impressive averages!
     
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    i have no clue who he is either. i guess we will find out tonight.
     
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    I just started hearing about him about two weeks ago, as the Raptors record became a thing...
     
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    Good loss, if there is such a thing. Raptors know that if we are full squad, they are not winning...

    That being said. KD ball handling.... omg, please just stop. You are not Steph Curry, you are not Tim Hardaway. Cannot tell you how many times KD has dribbled off his leg or got his pocket picked near the half court, end of quarter or end of game situations... It's a very ugly part of his game and needs to go away.

    Andre did NOT travel, that was some Bull Shit right there.... hometown call, prob should expect it...

    Overall, I really like the grit our guys showed despite the needless turnovers in OT. KD was clutch as fuck a few times there, which makes up for the turnovers a bit... I guess. He actually surprised the F out of me and caused me to stand up for the last 5 minutes of regular time and all of OT... Like he was putting together an EPIC win game... He had the mojo for a bit. Just too many turnovers down the stretch.
     
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    Haven't watched the game yet, but I've seen plenty of Raptors games in the last few years, and this is a different team, much, much better than previous Raptors teams.

    Nick Nurse is doing a GREAT job at the helm, and he's been able to get Kawhi to buy into his system. The Raptors also have had a great farm system using their G-league team and lots of their players have benefited from getting plenty of minutes and responsibility in the g-league. They've also have had great drafting of raw guys to develop for their future, and some of those guys are getting into their prime now.

    Nurse has established a great system, first by moving one of their pair of centers to the bench. Valanciunas and Ibaka both have been starting and coming from the bench, rotating at the starting center spot. That has created a lot of space for other players, while also benefitting both of them on the offensive end. Also, Ibaka was often out of place defensively last year, but not when he's the only guy playing the center spot.

    Biggest beneficiary of the move has been Pascal Siakam, a tremendous athlete that has taken the PF spot for himself, and who is doing really well defensively and on the boards, and he's no slouch on offense. Danny Green has also been a great addition to their rotation, playing at a level not seen since his first years in the Spurs.

    Kyle Lowry remains a bulldog. Great defensive player and a guy that sets the tone for the Raptors on offense. He's not having a great season in terms of efficiency, but he's the one running the show for Toronto.

    And they're really, really deep. They can rotate guys and bring Van Vleet (will replace Lowry as their starting PG in a couple of years, imo), Delon Wright, Norman Powell, CJ Miles or Anunoby from the bench, and they all contribute

    Scary part is that Kawhi has been playing well, but still has room to improve.

    I really think the Raptors are the top team in the east at the moment, and it's not even close. They might not have the star power of Philly or Boston (still a great defensive team, but their offense is sputtering right now, and Hayward is looking lost in the court), or a guy like the Greek Freak, but they're the most complete team in the conference and they really know how to play and how to match up with every rival.

    Don't get me wrong, they're not better than us when we're at full strength, but they're a really good team that makes you pay for your mistakes. And if we're missing some of our guys or are not focused properly, they definitely can beat us.
     
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    The ending in regulation was insane. KD was on fire. When he is that hot, there is nothing you can do, because you can't bother his shot. I didn't like the sloppiness in OT from the whole team. Just killed all of the momentum. but damn what fight! looney's rebounding was incredible all game. Lots of hustle plays. I also liked the ball movement when the bench guys were in. that was a good sign to me. If the offense can still flow without some key contributors, that should spell success for this team going forward.
     
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    I'm not worried at all for this season. We're still far better than anybody else at full strength. But to make this sustainable, we should have a plan A (keeping KD) and a plan B (harder to conceive).
     
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    Plan A should be trading KD, because he has sucked the life out of this team.
     
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    Really? We're not watching the same team, Chum... I think he's been the undeniable MVP of this team so far, since Curry got injured.
     
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    How's the team doing?
     
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    Without Curry and Draymond, exactly as expected.

    If you replace KD with Draymond for this stretch, we wouldn't have won a single game. This team, outside of the top 5 players, doesn't have enough talent to win any games.

    Which would be true for any team, mind you...
     
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    I enjoy a "hot take" even if I disagree.. lol

    Either way, this team definitely needs to find itself again.
     
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    I wouldn't have expected so many losses considering we have the MVP in KD :rolleyes:

    They have had two all-stars playing, and the rest of the team is pretty much healthy. They just have no heart... because of KD.
     
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    I don't think its that simple. Our bigs outside of Looney rebounding have been awful. Our shooting has been terrible outside of KD and the occasional Klay explosion. There is no flow to the offense, and some of the lineup combinations have been questionable.
     

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