The 2019 Player Movement Thread

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  1. TMC

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    Might be a bit early, but let's start our yearly thread about the upcoming free agency, because it looks like this year's is going to be key for the future outlook of the league.

    And so it begins...

    The Brooklyn Nets trade Allen Crabbe, the No. 17 pick in the draft and a 2020 lottery-protected first rounder (or in 2021 or 2022, if the previous picks fall in the protected range, will become two second rounders if not conveyed by the 2022 draft) to Atlanta for Taurean Prince and a 2021 second rounder. The deal will be finalized on July 6.

    Why it matters for Brooklyn? Because they add a very good player in Prince, who is a 3-and-D forward that can play and defend multiple positions and because they clear space for a second max contract in the upcoming free agency, becoming a premium destination for free agents. They've already been linked with Kyrie and I'm pretty sure they're going to offer a very compelling case to key free agents willing to move. It's particularly bad news for the Knicks, because the Nets, if they add a couple of max players, are ready to compete for a ring right now. Their supporting cast is that good, they just need the stars to take the leap to the next level. And the Knicks can sell living in NYC, but guess what? The Nets can do that, too!!. They can't sell playing in the Madison, but the improved supporting cast should be more than enough to overcome that. Reports say that they are the dark horse in the KD run, so we'll see what happens... in any case, they've really improved with this deal.

    Why it matters for Atlanta? That's harder to explain... I'm not particularly in love with this draft outside of the top 5 guys (Zion, of course, Ja Morant, Barrett, Garland and Culver are my top five). There are a few guys that might develop into nice role players (Hunter, Coby White) but a #17 pick is not a particularly high pick, so there's a risk involved. They also get another first rounder, but not a particularly high one (as the Nets will be expected to make the playoffs, and even be a contender if they do well in free agency in the upcoming years).

    So not really sure why this deal was so enticing for Atlanta. Guess they didn't want to sign Prince to an extension and decided to get something for him (Crabbe will be a free agent after next year). But I'm not really sure this was such a good deal for them. Great for Brooklyn, tho.
     
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    The Lakers are going ALL IN on 2020. They swapped Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, the #4 pick and two other future firsts for Anthony Davis.

    They had to swing this deal. The west is WIDE open next season. They weren’t going to waste another year of LeBron’s prime. It’s Anthony Davis. It doesn’t matter that he will likely still test free agency next summer. Personally, I think losing Lonzo hurts (and many might disagreed, but I believe in his talent) because he won’t cost the Lakers much this year. He’s had trouble staying healthy, but man he plays tough defensively. Him and Jrue will be solid in NOLA with Zion.

    Also, those two future firsts will be interesting. It’s reported that David Griffin did not want their 2020 pick. And so it will be interesting to hear the details of those. Because they essentially have control over what first round picks they’d want from LA within the next 7 years.

    Now the Lakers will go hard after Kemba Walker. If they don’t land him, the PG class gets murky after him. Kyrie is going to in New York, Brooklyn or Boston. And so all that’s left is D’Angelo Russell, Malcolm Brogdon, Gorman Dragic... so yeah, they better hope Kemba wasn’t that serious when he said that he’d be willing to take less to help the Hornets sign other key pieces. It’s championship or bust for them.

    Let’s hope the Warriors field an adequate enough team to make the playoffs and by some miracle, KD re-signs and returns in 9 months and Klay returns after the all-star break for the playoff run. Lakers vs Warriors in the WCF. Rematch the Raptors with a full squad.
     
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    Ok, let's break down the trade:

    - Lakers get Anthony Davis (will get into that later).

    - New Orleans gets Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, the 2019 #4 pick, the 2021 pick (top 8 protected, unprotected in 2022), right to swap first rounders with the Lakers on 2023 and totally unprotected 2024 WITH the right to defer that pick to 2025 (not usual, believe me).

    For starters, what New Orleans got is a f*cking haul.

    Let's get into it, from New Orleans side first. One thing to consider is that you can't trade picks in consecutive years, which is why the 2020 pick was never in play in this deal, as the 2019 pick was an important part of the deal.

    It's also interesting that New Orleans has insisted in the 2023 swap and the 2024/25 picks, because Lebron's contract is over in the 2022 season (hence the right to swap picks in 2023). Nobody knows what kind of teams the Lakers will have by then, and those picks can certainly be valuable.

    So let's get into the players... Hart is a very good role player, a valuable guy coming from the bench. Ingram has a lot of talent and can develop nicely there, although I'd be concerned about his health and also about him needing the ball so f*cking much. He was mostly useless when he didn't have the ball in his hands, and with all the talent New Orleans is going to have, that might be an issue. But he's really talented, and proved it when the Lakers decided to run "point-Ingram" as the basis of their offense. So he's gonna have to adapt, but he's a very good piece.

    And Lonzo. Let's start with this: I think the best thing that could have happened to Lonzo is what happened. He's out of LA. Now, if he could only get traded out of his own family or simply find a way for his father to shut up... But let's focus on the basketball point of view... I don't like the fit in New Orleans, I don't like it one bit. Lonzo has trouble with his shooting (a terrible flaw in nowadays basketball) and, what matters even more, has trouble staying healthy. I think Lonzo does a lot of things well, mind you, it's not like he's a terrible player, he's pretty good. But those two points should matter a lot.

    Also, New Orleans has now the #1 (Zion) and #4 picks in the draft, and they will have a fantastic PG like Darius Garland available, and I do not think they're going to take him after trading for Lonzo, which is a mistake. That #4 pick is, most likely, Jarrett Culver, who is going to be a nice player, but I don't see the upside I see in Garland.

    So, for all of the above, if I were Griffin, I would have closed the deal with Kuzma included instead of Lonzo. Or with a third team sending a player I like over Lonzo. And I think that if the only issue was Kuzma instead of Lonzo, the Lakers would have said yes...

    In any case, it's a huge return for New Orleans. The Lakers have traded 10 years of their franchise just to add AD. And that's an amazing return for Griffin.

    So now LA has AD, LeBron, Kuzma and cap room for another star. It looks like, as XBay said, Kemba is the right guy, and he'd be a particularly good fit next to the guys they have. But Kemba is going to have suitors. It's true New York is not going to be so enticing as before KD's injury (supposing KD was the big signing of the Knicks), because now Kemba would be their top guy and would have to carry a bad team for one year without much help. But if he returns to Charlotte (and he's talked about it openly, as XBay wrote), the Lakers are screwed. D'Angelo Russell is not going back there (not in a million years), Brogdon is good, but you have to beat the Bucks to sign him (which means vastly overpaying), and he's not a true PG to being with. Dragic is done. They're going all in, but if they don't sign Kemba, it's likely they're going to have to sign wasted vets like last year just to fill their roster. They'll have to do some of that, no matter how you look at it. But this deal only works if you add another good free agent. I think Kyrie is the dark horse. Everybody expects him to go to Brooklyn but now I wouldn't be so sure... And he'd be even better than Kemba, as a third wheel to LeBron and AD.

    So it's easy to say the Lakers won the trade. Fact is, I don't know. New Orleans got a ton of assets and the Lakers have AD, who is great, but has had his share of injuries, Kuz and an aging LeBron (and it was pretty evident last year, although I guess he didn't feel like doing his best considering the kids he was surrounded with and how the season developed, particularly after his injury...). They need another piece, imho. But it can't be denied they got a big time talent in AD, a generational player, and now they're back in contender territory.

    Also, one other thing to consider... AD has said he's not signing an extension right now, that he'll still go into free agency. If the season doesn't go well (and injuries can kill a season fast), things might get interesting in LA.
     
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    There is also the possibility of flipping that #4 for a veteran. For whom that would be? Don’t know. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they did trade it.

    I think at the moment, the biggest winner of the trade is David Griffin. He had an opportunity to lead the Knicks, however Dolan did not want to give him full control. So he rejected them and enjoyed wine tasting in Sonoma County in Northern California with his wife instead. Then the Pelicans called. And regardless of the end result, he got the huge haul that Gayle Benson wanted for AD. And we won’t be able to truly evaluate this deal until all the assets have been used and time passes.

    The Jazz ultimately turned the picks the Warriors sent them in that 3-team deal to land Iguodala into guys who are no longer on the team or never were in Rodney Hood and Tony Bradley (whom they swapped #30 for #28, which ended up being Josh Hart) and others. So who knows? This situation is different given how far out everything is spread, but it would be hilarious if the Lakers had the opportunity to draft LeBron’s son down the road and the reason they couldn’t is because that pick was now owned by the Pelicans.
     
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    I really don't think Griffin is trading that pick. I mean, sure, he could if he could get, I don't know, Bradley Beal for the #4 pick and another pick, but I really don't think that deal is going to be there. And if he's trading for a young player, he might as well keep the pick.

    Another possibility, considering Lonzo's career so far, is to take Garland anyway and let them play out who's the best of them and trade the other one. That could be an interesting move.

    And don't get me wrong, I'm down on Lonzo's career so far, but if he fixes those two issues (shooting and staying healthy), he can be a really, really good PG. There's a lot of talent there.

    So who knows what's going to happen? One thing is clear, there's a lot of young talent in New Orleans, and a few good vets (like JRue, one of the most underrated players in the whole league) to lead them. It's going to be a very interesting season in the Bayou, and one of the teams I'm gonna watch as often as I can next year.
     
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    The Lakers are scrambling to turn Mo Wagner, Issac Bonga and Jemerrio Jones into cap space so that they can sign a 3rd player to a max deal. Even if they accomplish that, they’d have to turn 7 roster spots into veteran minimums. Uh, good luck, Rob. Unless AD is willing to waive his $4m trade bonus, which if he doesn’t, you can’t blame him. $4 mil is $4 mil. Get your money, big guy.

    Al Horford declined his $30.1m option because he wants a 3/4-year deal. And he might not come back to Boston. Can’t fault his logic. He’s still good at what he does and wants security. He deserves it. The Celtics should just let him walk if that’s the case and begin their full on youth movement. I’m all for Rozier/Brown/Tatum to lead them into a new era.

    Harrison Barnes declined his $25+m option, as well. He wants long term security in years, too. I still see him back on the Kings.

    The Kawhi sweepstakes will likely be a bidding war between the Raptors and Clippers. The Raptors can offer more, but the Clippers offer him an opportunity to be closer to home. And he widely prefers the Clippers over playing 3rd fiddle on the Lakers. So who knows? He could end up doing a 1+1 deal with Toronto like KD has the past two summers.

    Philly has some decisions to make. They said they’d do whatever it takes to remain competitive. So does that really mean they’ll shell out big money to retain Jimmy Butler, Tobias Harris and JJ Redick? If Kawhi doesn’t hit that bouncy shot, do the 76ers rally in OT and end up being this year’s Raptors instead? A bunch of what if’s there, but it does make you think. I don’t see them retaining all 3 guys, but if Kawhi leaves the East, then maybe.

    Milwaukee has a decision to make with Middleton, Brogdon, Lopez and Mirotic. Can’t see them losing Middleton because that would piss off Giannis (and lead him closer to joining the Warriors in a year lol jk). Brogdon wants to stay. They could very well lose both Lopez and Mirotic, which would be huge. The Bucks need shooters. Lopez will command $$$, as he should. There should be a market for Mirotic’s services.

    It’s gonna get wild real soon, fellas.
     
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    I think Philly keeps two of their 0wn free agents, not all three. And I think Butler and Reddick are the ones that stay. Toby is gone, and I'd keep an eye on Brooklyn as his possible destination. Jimmy's already said he's going to talk to Miami, but I don't see him leaving a contender for the Heat, who are rebuilding and need to create cap space to make any real moves. They will be a big free agent destination in the 2020/21 season, tho.

    As for Milwaukee, it's tricky... I also think they keep Middleton and Brogdon, unless the latter gets some kind of crazy deal. Brogdon is really good, but not that good. Just a guy that plays hard, can defend, score, shoot and run an offense, very good at everything he does, but not elite at anything. So he's got a lot of value, but certainly not enough for a max level contract. So unless someone goes crazy and offers him the max, I think Milwaukee keeps him. Middleton is probably sign for the max, or very close to it. And I think they have an option to keep Lopez or Mirotic, but it's going to be hard to keep both. In that scenario, I think Lopez stays. ATM, they're trying to trade Tony Snell and Ilyasova in order to create more cap room to re-sign those guys.

    The #4 pick that the Pelicans got from LA is very much available, with the Hawks and Pacers already talking with the Pelicans about possible deals for the pick. The Wolves, Celtics and Bulls have also asked about the pick, with no formal talks behind that. The Pelicans look to be looking for an established star for the pick, someone like Bradley Beal, who is not available atm. Any other scenario, I would keep the pick. Whoever you take at #4 is going to be better than anybody you take at #8 and #10 (what the Hawks are dangling for a trade) or whoever Indy is willing to trade for the pick. New Orleans needs to add the best available player, not even more young guys to develop. And Garland or Culver won't be there with any of those picks.
     
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    Thanks for the updates fellas!
     
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    Seems the consensus at #4 is that you are either getting RJ Barrett or Darius Garland. And that’s GREAT value in comparison to, as you said TMC, who you’d get at #8 or #10. So that’s big.

    Good luck to the Hawks on swinging a trade for that. And same for the Pacers. They’d probably have to include a 3rd team to include the established vet. Griffin doesn’t want another young guy. Regardless, the Pelicans are a top League Pass contender next season, that’s for sure.
     
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    The Grizzlies have traded Mike Conley to Utah for Grayson Allen, Kyle Korver (might get cut), Jae Crowder, the 23th pick in this draft a future pick, which will be a protected 2020 first rounder that might convey on 2020 or 2021 or even as a lightly protected pick from 2022 to 2024.

    The Grizz got a good bounty for him, but Conley, if healthy, solves a lot of the issues Utah had this past season. Mitchell should be ecstatic to hear this news. And he's got a pretty good deal, $67 million over two years, iirc, which is pretty attractive for a guy on the wrong side of his 30s. Great deal by the Jazz.
     
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    I love that deal for Utah. If they can add a spacer like Mirotic, they’ll be a West Finals contender. Lots of potential for the Jazz there.

    As for the Grizz, their future is very bright. Jaren Jackson Jr. The #2 pick which will likely be Ja Morant. And then all those picks. Give them 5-10 years.
     
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    I love Conley. Only issue with him is staying healthy, but if he is, this puts Utah in contender status for a ring next season. Conley is great and the best possible backcourt teammate for Mitchell. Great deal by the Jazz.

    The Grizz are rebuilding, but they have some good pieces already. Triple J (seriously, must be among the best nicknames in the league), Morant, they want Valanciunas back (played really great since he was traded there, getting more touches and more minutes as their starting center), Dillon Brooks (underrated guy, imho), Crowder, Allen, and all those picks, plus cap room once they get better... only real issue is that pick they have to sent to Boston, top 6 protected next year and unprotected in 2021. That can be a pretty high choice they're going to lose. But other than that, Memphis is a team that's building the right way and that should improve quickly. Maybe not this year, but I think in two more years they can be a contender for the playoffs if they make the right moves.

    Also, another trade:

    - The Bucks have traded Tony Snell and the 30th pick to Detroit for Jon Leuer in a salary dump move made in order to get ready for free agency. They've been trying for a while to dump Snell's salary and they've had to attach a first rounder in order to achieve it. Snell can be a useful role player yet, but the Bucks need that cap space now.
     
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    Latest rumors getting a bit crazy:

    - Dubs might be considering moving KD in a sign-and-trade, so he can get his five year deal and the Warriors get something in return. Just in case he's adamant about not signing with us, that is.

    - Nets having second thoughts about Kyrie. He was part of their future as KD's sidekick. If KD ain't signing there, they'd be better off not going through all the drama that goes with Kyrie whenever he signs.

    - Wizards not interested in trading Bradley Beal, no matter the offer (I don't believe that last part, but it's a way to up the price a bit).

    - Minnesota trying hard to trade up. To #4. It's a huge jump, but it might be the only way they can get Garland... (that last part is who I think they're targeting, not part of the rumor).
     
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    I like the S&T if he’s decided to move on. At least we get something out of it. The show of brother and teammate around these finals and injuries make me think he wants to stay but by July 1st... who knows?? Its KD were talking about.
     
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    Well, the draft is over and the era of the retarded GM is back in full swing! Not since David Kahn and Isiah Thomas were running teams we've had such a huge amount of retarded moves.

    Lets' go step by step:

    First, I think you all know I consider this a 4 guys draft. Zion is, by far, the key one, but I think Morant, Barrett and Garland are close and that any of those can be the second best player in the draft. All of them have star potential.

    So, if you've got the #4 pick, why the heck would you trade it? Particularly when your starting PG is Lonzo and you've got Garland available. Because Lonzo is talented, but he's proven to be a walking injury, having trouble to stay healthy. Take Garland, play them against each other and let them prove who's the best. Then trade the other! I understand what Griffin was thinking, and that's that, after Randle opted out, they have a hole inside the size if Louisiana. Hayes is gonna block shots and dunk on everybody, and they did alright adding Nickeil Alexander-Walker to their backcourt, so it was not like they had an awful draft. Both will help. But if you've got the chance to take a guy that has star potential like Garland, do it.

    I would approve of moving the pick if they had traded for, say, Bradley Beal, but I think it's a mistake. Not the worst I've seen in this draft, because I totally get what Griff was trying to do. And it might work in his favor, I just think they should have gone for Garland instead. But the move makes sense considering the Pelicans needs.


    Ok, let's go for the disastrous nights. Let's start with the Suns. And let me start by saying the NBA should take control of the Suns, fire everybody on that franchise and put them up for sale, hoping for a competent owner that knows what he's doing and hires the right people to run the team.

    Back to topic, Phoenix started the draft by trading TJ Warren and the #32 pick for... cash. You read that right. Cash. For the most reliable SF you had on your team, a guy that last year had injuries that cut his season short, but who was, by far, their third best player after Booker and Ayton. What do they got back? F*cking cash. And you had to send the Indy the second pick of the second round. Try to explain that to your fanbase.

    Later, with Garland gone, they had the chance to take the PG they REALLY need. And what do they do? They trade the pick to Minny for Saric (good player, but the Twolves never knew how to use him properly). So they can't take Culver or Coby White (the latter would have been perfect alongside Booker). They take Cameron Johnson at #11. At f*cking #11. Like 15 spots above his projection. And Johnson is a good shooter, but has plenty of flaws with his health and athletic limitations. Major reach (let's remember they didn't have a need at SF at the beginning of the night, as they had Warren, Bridges and Josh Jackson to begin with... all of them far better than Johnson). By then, they've come around and realized they do not have a PG, and going point-Booker again is not going to be pretty. So they trade a future first rounder (a late one, as it's the Bucks 2020 pick) for Aron Baynes (nice role player, but overpaid, with Boston wanting to clear cap room) and the #24 pick, a pick they use to take Ty Jerome. And Ty Jerome is a good shooter and playmaker that will be a total sieve on defense because of his physical limitations (might be the slowest PG in the draft, has negative wingspan, which I haven't seen in quite a while). He's smart and tough, and I think he can find a place in the league, but he's not the f*cking answer alongside Booker because he shares plenty of the same flaws, without Booker's athleticism and scoring ability. Guess who was the f*cking answer? Coby White.

    Oh, and that second round they gifted Indy with? Was traded to Miami and the Heat took KZ Okpala with it, a player with more upside than anybody the Suns got.

    So the Suns get the worst possible grade out of this draft. Or any draft I've seen recently.

    Gotta leave for work, but will post more outrageous draft day moves later.
     
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    Some draft-day rumors:

    - KD is going to decide between the Nets, Knicks, Clippers and Warriors. It just happens that his injury helps our chances to retain him immensely.

    - The Lakers won't have cap space for another max deal. Reason: Pelinka is a moron and didn't realize that timing matters. So by completing the deal on July 6 instead of July 30, their cap space gets lowered from $32.5 million to $23.5.

    It gets worse. AD has a trade kicker of $4 million, and the Lakers will try to get him to waive that kicker. Which is not an easy sell, as $4 million is a lot of cash. A different issue is if he deserves that money when he's the forced the trade, but whatever...

    What would be really funny is if the Lakers season is a disaster because they can't sign anybody else and New Orleans has a great season. Because now the Pelicans have a max slot available after trading Solomon Hill's contract to Atlanta. Just imagine if AD signed back with New Orleans as a free agent next summer, with the Pelicans keeping 10 years of top 5 picks by the Lakers under their control. Won't happen, but it'd be extremely funny...

    - Orlando is adamant about re-signing Nick Vucevic, but the Celtics and Lakers will be suitors as well.

    - Chicago will keep looking for a PG, even tho they just drafted Coby White. Ricky Rubio and Pat Beverly are options there. Rubio has been linked to Indy as well.
     
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    As for outrageous moves on draft day, look no further than Washington, taking Rui Hachimura (nice offensive skillset, but awful defensively) at #9 without working him out or even meeting with him. That's what happens when you don't do your homework and... well, let's just say that it's usually a good idea to have a GM in place by the time the draft comes around.

    It's not as bad as Phoenix's draft. Nothing will ever be as bad as the Suns' 2019 draft. It's just not possible.
     
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    The best thing would be the Pelicans beating the Lakers in the playoffs next season...I will be rooting for that. F**k the Lakers!
     
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    More bad draft experiences, the right players, wrong situation edition:

    Atlanta. They're trying to copy the Warriors blueprint (not surprising at all, with their GM coming from the Warriors, and if something works, hey... ). So Trae Young is their Curry, Huerter is their Klay, John Collins is their Draymond (except they're different players, Collins is a far better scorer, Dray is better at... well, everything else). The talent level is not there, but they're following the blueprint, and Young has a lot of talent and played really well the second half of last season. And I really, really like Collins.

    So that's the plan, and they've added good players. De'Andre Hunter is a 3-and-D guy, able to help from day 1. Cam Reddish has a lot of talent, but it's natural to have doubts because he didn't play well for Duke. Bruno Fernando in the second round is a steal. So, on paper, is all good.

    Except Hunter is their Harrison Barnes. That's ok. But why the f*ck do you trade UP for him? Why do you trade to #4 to take a Harrison Barnes clone? And why did you trade Taurean Green to Brooklyn to draft a clone of him?

    So yes, you stay at #8 and most likely won't get the chance to draft Hunter, but you can take Hayes instead and use the #17 pick in another guy that can help you right now (Nickeil Alexander-Walker, the guy New Orleans took with that pick, is pretty good... I would have taken him above Reddish, for starters. He's got less talent and a lower ceiling, but also a higher floor). And let me tell you, Atlanta needs more players than they already have, they aren't a De'Andre Hunter away from being a good team. Particularly when they had Taurean Green playing that role nicely. So keeping Green instead of trading him to Brooklyn, moving up to #4 and taking Culver there would have been a very good move. Huerter is a good shooter, but that's about it. Culver would have been a great fit here. I know they got #17 and a future first rounder from the Nets, but still, follow me on this thought, because this is where the Hawks stand after their trading:

    They could have had a lineup of Young, Culver, Green, Collins and Hayes, that I think would have made the Hawks a contender for the playoffs in the east. Instead, they have Young, Huerter, Reddish, Hunter and Collins (and yes, a future first rounder, but it's lottery protected, so not a high pick).

    I think there's a clear difference in terms of talent and cohesion.

    And I've got nothing against Hunter. I think he's going to have a long and successful career as an NBA starter. He's the kind of player that teams covet in modern basketball. Just don't fully understand what makes him so special as to trade up to #4 for him.

    Mind-bending moves. Being a GM seems easier from the outside, I don't know what happens with some people that try to outsmart themselves.

    Another right guy, bad situation example: Cleveland Cavaliers.

    Let's start by saying that I think Garland is gonna end up the second best player of this draft, even above Morant and Barrett. So taking him at #5 is an absolute steal, and only because he's missed a ton of games this season. But I love Garland's upside.

    Problem is, he doesn't fit, at all, with Sexton. Right now, the Cavs might have the worst defensive backcourt of the entire NBA, and what makes things worse, I don't see it working offensively at all, because both guys need to have the ball on their hands to be effective. They can't work shooting out of screens and with constant ball movement. Both are similar guys, and both needs to have the ball as much as possible to display their skills. Which makes the pairing a very, very poor fit.

    Then again, the Cavs probably are thinking about letting play each other and trade the one that loses out, what do I know... But the fit can't be worse. Culver would have been great here as well alongside Sexton.

    The Cavs have also taken Dylan Windler (great shooter, not much else) and Kevin Porter Jr (lots of talent, plenty of background concerns) in a guard heavy draft. Windler is a good pick, a guy that can fit great with the guys they already have and that covers a basic need like shooting. Porter is a harder fit, particularly keeping both Sexton and Garland.
     
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    And now, the good drafts, because I only talk about the bad ones:

    New Orleans. I already talked about them, and I would have taken Garland at #4, but everything Griffin is doing makes a lot of sense. They got the best player in the draft and are loaded for the future, a future that might come sooner rather than later.

    Memphis. I like Garland over Morant, but that doesn't mean Morant is bad a prospect, quite the opposite. A core of Morant and Jaren Jackson Jr., plus Brandon Clarke at #21, a steal that late, is a very good haul for Memphis.

    Other picks I like: Coby White to Chicago (you gotta love it when BPA fits the biggest need on your team), Culver to Minnesota, Nick Claxton at the start of the second round to Brooklyn, PJ Washington to Charlotte (if Kemba stays, because I don't know who's going to score on that team if he leaves), Carsen Edwards to Boston in the second round, Bol Bol to Denver also in the second round.
     

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