The 2018 Player Movement Thread

Discussion in 'Know Your Enemy' started by TMC, Jul 1, 2018.

  1. TMC

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    Good.

    Because it seems to me that he has some very bad people advising him, with not exactly his best interests in mind.
     
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    Agreed. Most times, the way you had envisioned your career playing out is not how it works out.
    But if you are open to new things, you can make something beautiful and unexpected happen.
    What Kawhi fails to see yet, and hopefully he's coming around, is that if he chooses wisely, he can rule the eastern conference for the foreseeable future.
    A team like Brooklyn or the Knicks have money to spend next summer and would instantly become playoff contenders. Same if he decides to stay in Toronto.
     
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    Man, I love all this NBA trading and signing drama.

    Personally, I think the Kawhi/DeRozen was a good trade for both teams...

    San Antonio did pretty well last season without Kawhi. Now they will have added DeRozen, who fits SA well imo, but I think he will especially pair up well with Aldridge. Aldridge, imho, will be one of the most dominant players next season. I think a spark was ignited in his head and he can see his own potential. Aldridge will be a monster next seaon, and the Spurs (with a young, soon to be coached by player-maker Pop) will be a bear in the regular season and even more so in the playoffs.

    Toronto... needs to keep people in seats, how about a little Kawhi drama? How will they play with Kawhi? How will all the players get along (Lowry and DeRozen were best buddies,) will Kawhi stay after the season? Toronto will be talked about and they will probably make a strong run for the Eastern Conference. Also, they can always trade Kawhi to the Clips or Lakers in a possible bidding war.

    Great stuff all around. Can't wait to see the new season start.

    While I do think the Warriors have all the potential in the world, I do think they are one of the greatest teams to ever play in the NBA... shit happens. Injuries happen. Disgruntled players happen. Smart coaches find weaknesses in even the best teams. The Warriors aren't a sure thing next season, even though it seems like they can't be beat. I like seeing all these other teams trying hard to find a way around the Warriors.
     
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    First things first, the signings:

    - Marcus Smart re-signs with the Celtics, 4 years, $52 million. Around three million per year less than what he was looking for, but still a lot of money for a guy that found a dry market in which he had very few options outside the Celtics (Sacramento, yeah, but... you know...). Now the Celtics bring back their whole core and should be ready for a run to the finals as the top contender in the east. It was the "smart" move for Marcus.
     
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    I think it was a good deal for San Antonio. The Toronto side is not so clear, it's all pending on how Kawhi plays, how he adapts to the city and what he's going to do next year.

    San Antonio gets a bonafide all star SG, a great guy that can score, that improved his game a lot last year adding a much needed 3 point shot and who is not afraid to go to the rim and get fouled, which is a great help in close games. DeRozan was great for Toronto. Defensively he goes from barely adequate to a sieve, but I'm guessing Pop's gonna find a way to disguise that part of his game.

    They also get Jakob Poetl, who is a big center, good rebounder and with a soft touch around the rim. Slow, but effective. I think he can develop into a starter with some good coaching, and he'll get that in San Antonio.

    They get a late first rounder (likely, if Kawhi plays) or two second rounders. It's alright, they'll use them to build for the future.

    Point is, everybody expects Pop to retire or move to a different position in a couple of years. And he wants to be able to compete right now. This deal does exactly that. I think the Spurs will be competitive enough to make the playoffs in the west, as they always do, and that matters a lot for Pop.

    Toronto becomes the second best team in the east if Kawhi is healthy and focused on basketball. The conference finals between a Kawhi-led Toronto and Boston would be great. And they've got a pretty good team surrounding him, with vets like Lowry or Valanciunas, shooters like Danny Green or CJ Miles and great all-around and young guys like Fred Van Vleet, Delon Wright and OG Anunoby. Even Ibaka, overpaid by a lot at this point of his career, can be somewhat useful.

    I don't think they'll be able to trade Kawhi, both LA teams will wait to sign him in the offseason. But Toronto's play is to get him into the team culture, have a great season, make it to the finals and hope for him to realize life can be much easier in the east, make more money and have a competitive team that might even win a ring in the next few years.

    I don't think it'll matter, I think Kawhi is set on moving to LA after the season... but that's Toronto's play. If he leaves, they'll have to start rebuilding. That's why the trade is not a win-win for them.

    We're one KD injury away from not being a lock to win the ring... You never know what may happen during the season, but this team minus KD, while good and definitely a contender, is far from a lock.
     
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    - Mavs sign Yogi Ferrell, two years, $5.3 million. He can be a nice backup, although I still think the Mavs are far from being a playoff contender.
     
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    Complicated deal tonight. It's a three-team deal, and let's try to explain who got who:

    - OKC is trading Melo to Atlanta, then he'll be waived and will be free to sign with Houston or Miami, the two teams he's considering, and Houston is the frontrunner at this point. Philly gets involved in the deal as well.

    So Atlanta gets: Melo, to be waived, the Thunder first round pick in 2022, protected 1-14, and if not conveyed that year, it'll become two second-rounders, and Justin Anderson from Philly.

    Philly gets Mike Muscala.

    OKC gets Dennis Schroder and Thimothe Luwawu.

    So OKC gets rid of Melo while improving their team. Schroder is a headcase, but he's talented, a really fast guard that can score and will be a good fit with Russ (that is, as long as they don't clash), adding a much needed scoring punch from the bench. He's not much of an outside shooter and is pretty ball-dominant, so there are legit doubts about how he's going to fit there. Luwawu is young and athletic and might be a good fit from the bench as well.

    Atlanta gets Justin Anderson, who is filler but will stick around and try to make the most of this chance to have minutes in Atlanta, the aforementioned Melo, to be waived, and one pick (or two lesser ones, who knows where OKC will be in 2022) for their trouble.

    Philly gets a big man that will report to the team to replace Bjelica. A pity for them, because Bjelica is a better player than Muscala ever will be, but Mike can rebound a bit and has range and can score from outside, which is what they were looking for, a stretch PF.
     
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    Hahaha!
     
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    Kawhi, or his camp, is reporting that Kawhi is all on board to play for the Raptors... now.

    Kawhi doesn't seemed to be motivated by money, or not entirely so. He may love his home in LA, but young men change their minds. Kawhi could be won over by the city and fans in Toronto. Taxes and cold weather might not dissuade him.
     
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    Yeah, probably someone told him that, according to the CBA, if he misses more than 30 games without a reason (that is, injuries that do not let him play), he loses his free agent rights and can only negotiate with Toronto once his contract is over.

    Change has been so fast that probably someone on his group decided to read the CBA before holding out.

    Toronto is a top 5 NBA city. It's true it's cold, and Canada's taxes are much, MUCH higher (Texas doesn't have any state taxes on income, if I'm not wrong). It's really far away from the west coast and needs some time to get used to the weather, but everybody ends up loving Toronto. It's just that Kawhi probably made just one trip per year in the middle of the winter...

    Also, the Raps have a great, raucous fan base, among the best in the NBA. I think he'd love to play there, if he had an open mind about it. If he joins the Raptors with his mind set on leaving, it's going to be a very, very long year for him.
     
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    More trades! This feels like NBA Christmas in July!!! :cool:

    - The Brooklyn Nets traded Darrell Arthur, who will be waived, to the Suns for Jared Dudley and a 2021 second round pick (protected to 35... yes, it's odd that a second round pick is protected, but this one is). Seems like Phoenix was going to waive Dudley, but Brooklyn wanted to add him to their rotation. If that's the case, I don't understand why Phoenix had to send a pick as well in the deal... oh, well...

    - The Phoenix Suns have "traded" $1 million to Philly for Richaun Holmes. Why? That's a good question...

    - Yogi Ferrell backs out of his deal with Dallas. Just another example of dirty tricks, most likely by his agent, who didn't even call the Mavs to tell them his client wasn't going to sign the agreed deal, the Mavs called him after reading online about Ferrell's decision. And why is it a dirty trick? Because the Mavs rescinded the qualifying offer they had extended once they agreed on a contract proposal. So now, he's a free agent and may sign whenever he wants. So let's not talk about loyalty in the game, please, there's none, not from the teams nor the players or their agents. I really hope Dallas rescinds their offer and Ferrell has to play somewhere else for the minimum after pulling this gimmick. And that his agent gets fired.
     
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    Another sh*t move, seems we've got a ton of those lately...

    - Remember how Nemanja Bjelica back out from his deal with Philly? He told them he wanted to stay in Europe for family reasons. Well, he just signed a three-year deal worth $20.5 million with Sacramento. Guess the family loyalty has a prize for some people, after all...

    - Remember how Yogi Ferrell backed out from his Dallas agreement? He just signed a two-year deal for $6.2 million (900K more what he was going to sign with Dallas) with Sacramento.

    So there's one constant in all these sh*t moves of players not honoring their agreements: Sacramento.

    - In better news, Michael Beasley finds a home, and it's a good one. He's signed a one-year deal, $3.5 million with the Lakers. He played really well at times for NY and can give the Lakers a much needed scoring punch from the bench.
     
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    - Montrezl Harrell re-signs with the Clippers. Two years, $12 million, fully guaranteed. Young and good glue guy, I think it's a good deal for both sides.
     
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    - Alex Len signs with Atlanta. 2 years, $8.5 million. He's still young, just 25, and it's going to be a good opportunity for him to prove he can be a starter in this league.
     
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    - As expected, Dirk is back with the Mavs. One year, $5 million. Probably the final season of an amazing career that had him winning a ring and playing 21 years for the same team. Amazing achievement from a great, great player.

    - And Memphis traded Jarrell Martin and cash to Orlando for Dakari Johnson and the rights to Tyler Harvey, who's playing in France. Why? Because this deal allows Memphis to get below the luxury tax.
     
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    - Kevin Love is now the face of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Particularly after LeBron has left leaving Kevin to lead the Cavs, a position he'll gladly take after signing a 4-year, $120 million extension. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. And he's saved the franchise almost $8 million in the last year, in which his salary actually decreases, in order to give them some cap relief to try and remain competitive.
     
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    - Knicks sign Noah Vonleh. It's a one-year, not fully guaranteed deal. It's interesting because he seems to have been around for a while, but he's yet only 22. He's got some talent, and with Porzingis out for a good part of the season, he'll have the chance to earn some minutes.
     
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    - A most interesting signing... Vince Carter, still playing at 41 years old, signs a one-year deal with Atlanta. It's not like they're planning on playing him a lot, but want him to act as a mentor for their young kids.
     
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    I'm surprised that Carter is still playing. I think its cool that he wants to keep it going as long as he can.
     
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    Finally news regarding one of the big names that hadn't signed yet, and Quazz is not going to like this one...

    - Clint Capela is going to remain a Rocket for the long term. He's signing a 5-years, $90 million extension, thus ending his restricted free agency. It's a huge deal for both Capela and Houston, for a very reasonable amount considering the price tag of good centers nowadays. For instance, he's going to make less than Rudy Gobert or Steven Adams, with one more year on his deal. And Houston secures their big three for the next four years.
     

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