The 2018 Player Movement Thread

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  1. TMC

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    Let's start another thread for the 2018 free agency deals:

    - CP3 signs a 4-year, $160 million deal to stay with the Rockets. Awful deal, but they keep their core together in order to try to win a ring or two. Hey, at least is not a five-year deal...

    - PG signs a 4-year, $137 million deal to remain a Thunder. And, as I said in another thread, I think it's a ruse and he just wanted to sign for as much as possible and will demand a trade in one or two years. In any case, there's a player option for the third year.

    - Jerami Grant also stays with OKC, signing a three-year, $27 million per year contract. Overpaid? At this point, yes. But PG wanted to keep him, which probably helped... I like Grant, tho. Plays hard and is still developing, so it might be a good deal down the road.

    - Spurs re-sign Rudy Gay, 1-year, $10 million. He opted-out of a contract that would have paid him $8.8 million and earned $1.2 million more with this deal. I didn't expect him to re-sign with the Spurs, but hey, it's not a bad deal. He proved during the playoffs he still can be useful.

    - My favorite deal of the day, Nikola Jokic signing a max deal, 5-year, $148 million with the Nuggets. Jokic can score, can rebound and is the best passing big man in the game. Defense is not great (nor even good), but he changes the game on the offensive side for his team. And he was a second round pick... well deserved extension.

    - Denver also signed a 4-year, $54 million deal with Will Burton, with the last year being a player option. It's a good deal (for Burton, particularly) for a guy that showed plenty of promise and who will be the Nuggets starting SF this next season. He's a solid starter at this point of his career and should be a tradable guy if Michael Porter Jr. develops nicely.

    - Dallas signs DeAndre Jordan to a one-year deal, close to the $24.1 million he had signed with the Clippers, a contract he opted-out in order to sign with Dallas. And this is a weird one... not in terms of fit, because he's going to be a good fit with a Dallas roster that had a big hole to fill at the center spot, but in terms of years. It's weird he signed only for one year. Maybe he's just testing the waters and will sign a multi-year deal next season, but it's a weird one. To keep making the same money for the same duration, it would have made more sense for the three sides involved to work a sign-and-trade.

    - Doug McDermott gets three-years, $22 million from the Pacers. Another weird deal. Til he proves himself, McBuckets is the typical guy you sign on a year-to-year basis. Oh, well...

    - Joe Harris stays with Brooklyn, two-years, $16 million. He played well last year and gets his reward with this deal. Nice for both sides.

    - KD signing a two-year (a one plus one, actually) deal for $30 and $31.5 million to remain a Warrior. Already talked about this one in the other thread.

    - Belinelli is back with the Spurs, 2-years, $12 million. He's going to add outside shooting to a team that really needs it. Good deal.

    - Casspi signs a one-year deal with Memphis. No specifics yet on the money. Memphis is already going to tank next season?

    - Ed Davis signs a one-year, $4.4 million with Brooklyn. I always liked Ed. But he would have been a much better player in the 90s, this era of basketball is not for him.

    - Ersan Ilyasova signed a 3-year, $21 million deal with Milwaukee. And he's a good fit there, actually. Better than Jabari ever would be for a Budenholzer team. And the third year is not guaranteed, which makes me like the deal more and more for Milwaukee.

    - And Trevor Ariza is not going to be a Warrior. The Suns are going to sign him to a one-year, $15 million deal. How many wing players do the Suns need?


    And, to finish this post, a very important information in order to add context to all the spending. Cap is set at $101.9 million for next season, but it raises to $109 million for the 2019-20 season and to $116 million for the 2020-21 year.
     
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    Its official. Lebron is a Laker.... this is going to be fun kicking both LeDouche and Laker ass!
     
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    No one ever mentioned OKC as a destination, because no way Lebron would go there...

    but man, if went there with PG, Russ, and the Kiwi.. that's a big strong team.
     
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    So here comes the first big move, and the biggest of all free agency:

    - LeBron is a Laker. Four years, $154 million, and just like that, the Lakers are contenders again.

    - Lance Stephenson, Javale McGee and Kentavous Caldwell-Pope also sign with the Lakers, all of them on one-year deals. Lance and Javale sign for the minimum, but KCP is going to make $12 million, and I think that's overpaying, but it's only for one year and the Lakers will have a ton of cap space again next season, just in case they don't get Kawhi this sumer.

    - Fred Van Vleet is back with Toronto, 2 years, $18 million. Tough, smart player that's going to be a great help for the Raptors. I really like this deal for both sides.

    - Glenn Robinson III signs with Detroit. 2 years, $8.3 million. Cheap signing for a player that has room to grow. And if it doesn't happen, it's not a huge commitment.

    - Nick Stauskas signs with Portlant. Don't know the details of the deal, not like it matters unless you're a Blazers fan.

    - Mario Hezonja is a NY Knick. And it's a good deal for NY, as he's young and, on paper, talented. 1 year, $6.5 million. And he's going to have the chance to prove he belongs in the NBA.

    - Aaron Gordon re-signs with Orlando. 4 years, $84 million. The Magic had to re-sign Gordon, and they did. He's the most talented piece of a team going nowhere. Let's hope the new management starts making better decisions.

    - Elfrid Payton signs a one-year, $4.5 million deal with New Orleans. It's a great deal for that money. Surprise he didn't wait for a better offer.
     
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    Another important signing (although nothing will ever qualify as important after LeBron signed):

    - J.J. Redick signs another one year deal with the Sixers, for $12 to 13 million. Surprised he didn't sign for more years, but it's good for both sides. Redick just had the best season of his NBA career with the Sixers and they keep a great shooter that's perfect for what that team needs.
     
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    More signins in a slow day 2:

    - Biggest deal is us signing Cousins for the MLE. One year, $5.3 million. A bargain no matter how you look at it, and virtually risk-free considering it's just a one-year deal. It'd be the signing of the summer if not for LeBron.

    - Nerlens Noel signs with OKC, two years for the minimum, with the second being a player option. And I don't really get this signing, because Noel can't play other position than center and he better doesn't take any minutes from Adams. I know it's for the minimum, but OKC is a team that needs shooters badly, not Noel.

    - Seth Curry signs with Portland, two years, $5.6 million, with the second a player option. It's about right, Seth can shoot and if he's healthy, this is a good contract for Portland.

    - Mike Scott signs a one-year deal with the Clippers. I've always liked him, can score from inside and outside, rebound, is a better defender than his rep (without being great)... His only problem has been staying in shape, but he did last year with Washington and was their most reliable big man going by performance in the minutes he had. Won't change the Clippers franchise, but should have a good season.

    - Julius Randle signs with New Orleans, 2 years, $18 million, the second also a player option. And I'm not sure this is such a great deal. Randle is good, but a bit selfish once he gets the ball. I like AD's pairing with Mirotic a lot more. Seems like AD recruited him heavily, both being Kentucky guys and all. If it helps keeping AD happy, it's a good signing for New Orleans.

    - Derrick Favors re-signs with Utah, also 2 years, $36 million in this case, but the last year is not guaranteed. Favors is really solid and a great defender. I think he's a five, so playing alongside Hibert hinders his performance a bit, but hey, it's not like the contract is going to hurt Utah long term, and the market this year isn't precisely kind for big men.

    - Jose Calderon signs with Detroit, one year, $2.4 million. Not sure why people keep signing Calderon. Great teammate and all, but there's a point when it's clear you won't be able to contribute much...

    - The TWolves sign... Anthony Tolliver. One year, five million. For no other reason that Thibs knows him. It's a good thing when GMs do GM things and coaches coach.

    - Rajon Rondo is a Laker. One year deal, $9 million. I don't know what the Lakers are doing, really. Rondo played well alongside Holiday last year, particularly in the playoffs, but he still can't shoot, and Lonzo is not known for his shooting. The Lakers are probably not done, but it's not a fit I like for their backcourt. I think Tyreke Evans would have been a better option than signing KCP and Rondo.

    - Avery Bradley is back with the Clippers. 2 years, $25 million. Solid signing for LAC.
     
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    More signings, yeah!!!

    - Kevon Looney is also back. One year for the minimum. The market seems to have dried up pretty quickly, with few teams having cap space and willingness to use it, so Kevon came back for cheap. All the better.

    - Another intereting signing, as Dwight Howard, after his buyout with Brooklyn, is moving to D.C., where he's going to sign a one-year deal for the MLE, like Cousins did with us.

    - Washington has also signed Jeff Green to a one-year deal for the minimum. The Wizards now have a ton of talent, but a very complicated locker room. They can be a darkhorse in the east or a team that flames out again in the first round of the playoffs. I don't envy Scott Brooks job.

    - Michael Carter-Williams signs a one-year minimum deal with Houston. Yes, he's still in the league. Yes, nobody knew that.

    - Tyreke Evans signs a one-year, $12 million deal with the Pacers. And it can be one of the steals of the summer. He played really well when healthy last year with Memphis. And would have been a much better signing that all the sh*tty deals the Lakers signed after LeBron. Don't tell me they prefer to have KCP over Evans with the same deal.

    - Dante Exum will stay with the Jazz the next three years, for $33 million. A bit pricey for a backup, but still young and with room to develop.

    - Raul Neto also re-signs with the Jazz, for two years. No word on the amount yet. The Jazz love to keep their own players. Not like they're going to have an easy time signing free agents to play there...

    - OKC re-signs Ray Felton, one-year, $2.4 million. And they seem to have beaten the odds and have assembled the most expensive roster ever that doesn't have a chance to go past the second round of the playoffs (if they go past the first round).
     
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    A move I forgot... Philly "traded" their cap space for Wilson Chandler, a 2021 second round pick from Denver and the rights to swap second rounders in 2022, sending only "minimal trade considerations". They get a useful role player in Chandler, in the last year of a deal that will pay him over $12 million (valuable as an expirer as well in case they want to trade him). Denver gets an amazing savings of $50 million, considering the luxury tax and Chandler's contract, while opening minutes for recently re-signed Will Burton to start at SF, with Michael Porter Jr. coming from the bench.
     
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    Slow market yesterday:

    - Amir Johnson stays with Philly. One-year deal, no word on the money yet, but certainly not much. Sixers are keeping him because he's a hard worker, a good defender, a leader and a great teammate. It's nice when those traits get rewarded.
     
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    - Nemanja Bjelica is joining the Sixers for the MLE. It's a good addition, a guy perfectly capable of replacing Ilyasova. Now they just need someone to replace Belinelli's shooting.
     
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    Finally a day with moves to talk about:

    - Derrick Rose stays with Minny, one-year deal, no word on the money yet. One thing that's nice if you've played for Thibs in your career is that he's going to take care of you. To be fair, Rose played well enough last season as a backup, but he might not even be the best backup on his own team...

    - Jusuf Nurkic has signed a 4-year, $48 million deal. Last year is only partially guaranteed. It's ironic that Nurkic rejected an extension a few months back for more money, but had to settle for that once he realized the market is not what he expected. It's a great deal for Portland, imho.

    - Tony Parker is a... Hornet. Weird to even write that. It's a $10 million, 2-year deal. Not sure what he's trying to accomplish by moving to a team that might not even be a playoff team in the east, other than earning a bigger check. If he wanted to be relevant and compete, he had an offer from Denver, albeit for less money. Hey, at least Charlotte's new coach knows him well.

    - Sacramento signed Zach LaVine to a 4-year, $78 million offer, but Chicago is going to match it. I like LaVine, although that's overpaying a bit. But hey, good for him, and Chicago has a ton of cap space and no certainty of being able to sign anybody next year if they don't have some talent on their roster already.

    - Kyle Anderson signed a 4-year, $37.2 million offer-sheet with Memphis, although he's restricted, so San Antonio has 48 hours to match. Honestly, I wouldn't. I think Anderson can be replaced at a fraction of that price. He's good, but every time I watched him, seems like he's playing in slow motion. Guy is really slow for today's NBA.

    - Kyle O'Quinn signs a one-year, $4.5 million deal with Indiana. This is a good and underrated move. Kyle is tough, a good defender, a great rebounder and a leader in the locker room. The kind of glue guys you need to win and to help young kids learn the game.

    - Seems like OKC is going to move on from Melo, via trade (good luck trading that contract, you're gonna have to pack it with several draft picks, at the very least) or by agreeing to a buyout.

    - Orlando has signed Isiah Briscoe, a PG that played in Europe last season (in a very minor baltic league, didn't even realize he was playing there), but who seems to have impressed them enough to sign him right away.
     
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    What the hell is Tony Parker doing? He should have retired a Spur. To go from a GREAT organization like the Spurs who have made the playoffs every season he has been in the league, to complete shit in Charlotte. The Hornets may compete for the 8th spot in the east, but seems unlikely.
     
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    Absolutely. The $10 million are nice, but it's not like he's gonna need the money... If he wanted to keep playing, I guess San Antonio would have kept him for one year, and he had an offer from Denver, an actually good team, for one year. I just don't get moving to Charlotte, a team that, if they trade Kemba, will go straight into rebuilding mode.

    Some more moves from yesterday:

    - Dubs sign Jonas Jerebko, one year for the minimum. It's nice in terms of depth, but it's yet another inside guy. Some of them won't see much play time with a position so crowded.

    - Devin Booker is set for life, or several lives, after signing a max 5-year, $158 million extension with Phoenix. The Suns are all in this year, expecting to compete for the playoffs, and I don't think they're ready yet...

    - We also had a three-team trade: Orlando gets Mozgov and Jerian Grant, the Hornets get Bismack Biyombo and Chicago gets Julyan Stone. Chicago is likely to waive Stone, as his deal is not guaranteed if he's waived before next month. The Hornets get a defensive presence inside and Orlando gets a backup guard and a backup center as well, opening up minutes for Mo Bamba. So... not that great of a deal, just one with minor gains to everyone involved.
     
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    - Brook Lopez joins the Milwaukee Bucks. One year deal and an interesting option on offense to add to the Bucks.
     
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    I have said it before, but again, thanks for your posts TMC! Saves me a lot of searching time, as NBA news isn't at the top of my list.
     
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    No problem. I kinda enjoy doing this, and it can get tedious to look at some very minor moves teams make, but I love the offseason and the team-building, so I'm happy to do this and make it a bit easier for everybody.

    On to today's moves:

    - Zaza finds a home. The Pistons and Pachulia have agreed on a one-year, $2.4 million deal. Seems like everybody is signing one-year deals this season... This is insurance, as I don't think he's going to play much with Drummond and Blake in Detroit, but happy to see Zaza sign elsewhere.

    - The Spurs are not matching Memphis' offer sheet to Kyle Anderson. Hence, Anderson will become the Grizzlies starting SF. I think it's smart for the Spurs, Anderson is a bit too slow for today's NBA. He would have been great in the 90s, but right now, I think you can find better options to spend that kind of money. He's still useful, tho, it's not like Memphis' brass has lost their mind, but I think they overpaid for him.
     
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    - Clips get one of their own back. Luc Mbah a Moute signs a one-year, $4.3 million deal with the Clippers, where he played from 2015 to 2017. It's a huge blow to Houston, particularly after losing Ariza.
     
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    Just read that the Rockets will go after Melo. WTF? Have at it.
    I guess they are not trying to win.
     
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    I love what is happening to Houston.. two of their most active defenders, gone... and they are looking to replace that with more scoring... So Carmelo will be a spot up 3 pt. shooter huh? I'd like to see that team switch on defense now.

    damn, if only we could pry PJ tucker away from them..i really liked what PJ brought to that team last year.
     
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    Letting PJ Tucker go was the biggest mistake Toronto made last season. They kept the now untradable Serge Ibaka and let Tucker go, and that's killing them.
     
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