Discussion in 'NHL' started by Rob, Jul 17, 2010.
Lets talk about our hometown team!
OK,I barely follow hockey but certainly root for the local team. So I think I heard that Nabakov is gone... who did they get to replace him in front of the net?
Yes, Nabokov is gone, basically because he was making 6 million per year and the NHL has a pretty low salary cap. The sharks had been operating close to it and basically got closer when they traded for Dany heatley (7 mil a year).
They signed Antero Nittymaki, who was really good at times as a rookie with philly. He has been up and down since then but will be splitting time with the sharks current backup thomas greiss. Its a good solution because they signed nitty for 2 mil. They need to get a good defenseman and I think they will be fine. They also lost rob blake.
Another interesting move was signing Chicago defenseman niklas hjalmarsson to an offer sheet as a RFA. Chicago decided to match however it drove up Hjalmarsson's price tag, and Chicago had already been dramatically dumping salary. So Chicago lost a lot of players, meaning the Sharks will have a chance to get farther than they did last year.
hmm, so they "signed" a goalie that was a rookie last year? So I take it the financial landscape is much different in the NHL than other sports. How does a rookie become a free agent after one year or was he like an undrafted guy who just signed a one year deal and they just let him go
He was a rookie a few years back, but the financial landscape is so different. The salary cap is around 59 million, this is for I believe 23 players.
Top guys for example, like Joe thornton and Dany Heatley, make 7 to 8 million a year. Teams can't afford to spend big money, on the biggest names, because getting through the playoffs takes much more than a star player.
The Cap is also a hard cap, from what I hear if teams don't clear space by a deadline they start forefeiting games. That's why nabokov was expendable , a 35 year old goalie at 6 mil is just a waste, even if nabokov is better overall than nittymaki. The NHL consistently has the most player movement every year.
interesting. tks for the bit of education
No problem, i love educating non hockey or casual hockey fans.. its such a great sport.
just wanna say Screw You non hockey fans
and screw you again for non hockey fans that didn't watch the Sharks and Red Wings last night. Incredible game. One of the best regular season games of any sport i have seen.
whoa... when did hockey season start?
but actually when DID it start. I do know it is going but I honestly don't know for how long. Did it start recently or has it been going on for awhile. How are the sharks doing? what were the expectations for the team coming into the season?
Hockey season starts a month before basketball season. about 21 games to go. The Sharks started off slow, went through a big losing streak and are 13-2 i believe in their last 15 games.
Hockey standings are brutal in the western conference. The Sharks are 1 point behind division leading Phoenix but only 6 points ahead of the 10th place team. Sharks are currently fourth. Thats like in the NBA, the 4th seed is only 3 games ahead of the 10th seed.
Okay Rob, it's the NHL post season which means... time to follow the Sharks again. Not that I didn't already... I caught games here and there during the regular season. First off, PAVELSKI! Okay, now that I got that out of my system, I'll admit, I didn't watch the game, unfortunately. I was out and about and relied on my ESPN update.
I just saw highlights. Thoughts on the game?
The game was extremely physical, and the refs let a lot go. Guys were finishing checks pretty late. Some nasty hits and an actual fight in the playoffs. Thats pretty rare. Sharks started quick but about half way through the game the kings really took it to the Sharks. They seemed to dominate the Time on Attack and they tired the sharks out on many occasions. HOwever the sharks were running with 5 D for most of the game. Some of their shifts got too long and guys were gassed though it didn't bite them too much.
The positive i take out of the game is that even when the Kings controlled the puck in the Sharks zone, they didn't generate a lot of chances of their cycles. Their two goals were off a couple bonehead misplays by the sharks. THe first one, the Sharks came in shorthanded and Logan Couture shot high and wide and the puck rimmed around leading LA on a break. Marc Eduard Vlasic got too deep on the rush IMO, they had three sharks up on the play, leaving one guy back and the Kings took advantage since they were already a player up. The second goal was a misplay behind the net and Niemi lost site of the puck and left a side of the net open.
Pavelski sure has a knack for the dramatic. I really like Kyle Wellwood, what a pickup. Funny thing is if the Sharks didn't start off so poor, they probably could not have claimed him off waivers. THey just happened to have a worse record than St. Louis at the time. But the Wellwood, Pavelski , Mitchell line is one to watch. THey are so quick to the puck , they hold the zone better than any other line on the team. Wellwood is so patient with the puck and likes to find trailers, similar to a point guard in basketball. On the winning goal, you see Clowe and Wellwood on a 2 on 2 and Clowe drives the net, just like a big man filling the lane and Pavelski trails the play in open ice and gets the puck with tons of room, it was awesome.
Haha, I've been following them, Rob. I just forget we have an NHL forum just like how I forget we have an MMA forum. No one to talk to about either!
Sharks look good against the Red Wings. Game two was an example when they dominated the puck every now and then and killed a power plays left and right. We've won the last 6 of 7 playoff games against these cats, so I expect the series to go at max, 6 games. I can see Detroit winning one (most likely next game cause I have a tendency to curse teams unintentionally).
Detroit is hanging by a thread because howard has been so great. That effort in a losing cause has to frustrate him. I expect the sharks to score more in detroit. They always seem to simplify things on the road.
Gonna take a :chill: now and imp:
Time to ray: the Sharks can take out the Canucks.
Its such a different matchup than detroit. The Wings and Sharks are so similar, but the Sharks were a little bit bigger. Niemi was huge that series.
Vancouver has a different skill set, while they are a puck possession (Puck possession is basically a style where a team likes to keep the puck deep in the offensive zone, create a lot of zone time and wear down the defense) team their top line has incredible skill, which scares me. The Sedin twins have a knack for creating some sick back door plays that the Sharks have trouble defending. The key for the Sharks will be neutralizing the top line and keeping the puck deep in Vancouvers zone to wear out their defense.
Faceoffs will be of extreme importance this game. If the Sharks control faceoffs, they control possessions. The more they can keep Vancouvers top guys pinned in their own zone, the less they have to worry about them on the offensive end. I think the Sharks style is good against a guy like Luongo. I may be wrong, he may come up big, but i think he's overrated. Expect Marleau to be better this series, he should be able to use his speed more. Keep an eye on the Pavelski Wellwood Mitchell line, if the Sharks have a true advantage it will be on the 3rd line.
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