San Francisco 49ers Thread

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  1. TMC

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    Another thing to consider is that Kyle Shanahan has made it to the SB twice already... and both times his playcalling has been heavily criticized (fairly, imho). I'm not saying he's the only one to blame, but he played a role in the defeat.

    And it's weird, because playcalling doesn't seem to have been an issue til now (correct me if I'm wrong, please... I've watched the playoffs and some regular season football, but I don't have enough time to follow other teams closely. I've got enough time invested in following the Bucs). It just happens to him in the SB. Atlanta's defeat vs New England was totally his fault, and he could have done a much better job vs the Chiefs, it just doesn't happen in other games.
     
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    In both cases he went up against 2 old time vet coaches.

    Those guys have seen everything and know when momentum shifts and when to capitalize.

    Shanahan is still new at this but should get better.
     
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    I think Shanahan f*ck up again, plain and simple. You can't give the Chiefs the ball 33 minutes of the game, because they have Mahomes and two great weapons in Hill and Kelce (not to mention other good players like Williams and Watkins... it's a team built to win now) and, even more important, your defense is not well rested for the final minutes of the game. I think the defeat is mostly on Shanahan. It wasn't only his fault, obviously, but he played a big role in the defeat.

    Oh, well... the Niners have a great roster with plenty of weapons. They'll be back next year as a contender. As for this offseason, they should try to add help at WR and improve their o-line as much as possible (Staley is great, but everybody else is average at best, imho). But they should be back, and hopefully Shanahan will have learned the lesson for the third time.
     
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    Agreed.

    But like I said, experience is key.

    Kinda like watching an old boxer bide his time until the younger, stronger, faster boxer slips up or takes their foot off the gas and then they swoop in for the kill.
     
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    I understand now why this is a Quarterback's game tho.

    One throw was all it took to turn the whole team and, inevitably, the whole game around.

    Shanahan went to his QB too late after micromanaging him the whole game.
     
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    Agree with TMC. They got terribly out coached that final quarter. Plain and simple. It was very odd to see the offense not look much like how it operated the entire season.

    Credit to the Chiefs defense, though. That front 7 brought it.
     
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    Still hurtin from this game. I think it was all execution. Game of inches. Buckner gets to mahomes on 3rd and 15, niners are probably winning that game. As it was, mahomes threw a damn lollipop ..i thought for sure it would get picked. So frustrating to watch. Then Jimmy overthrows sanders... just some tough stuff.

    KC did a good job on 1st down runs for the most part though. I think that was a key.
     
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    Congrats on the trade for Trent Williams, guys. That was huge.
     
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    Most definitely.

    Salute to Joe Staley on a great career. Huge locker room presence, too. His retirement and Buckner’s departure creates a huge void as they were both fun and professional. Who will be that guy now? Outside of Sherman, it’ll be collective.

    Huge get on Trent, though. Staley telling John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan without anything leaking was extremely valuable. When they passed on Wirfs for Kinlaw, it might’ve raised some eyebrows. But Minnesota drafting Ezra Cleveland instead sealed the deal. And amazingly, they only had to give up next year’s 3rd and a 5th from this year. Pretty evident Ron Rivera wanted to move on regardless of past transgressions between Trent, Redskins ownership, former Redskins executives and Shanahan. It all worked out in the end. Now they have Staley’s, Buckner’s and Sanders’ successors.

    They’re all in on the same formula as last season... dominating the line of scrimmage on both sides. And so now, they will go as far as Garappolo takes them.
     
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    Hopefully, the AQI will not soar past 200 in Santa Clara tomorrow. It’s 190 so it is close. I’m not sure how they play even at 190 even with oxygen masks.
     
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    The good news: Trent Williams was a huge add. Bosa is such a force.

    The bad news: the interior line got beat quite a bit. No surprise as they’re dealing with injuries there. Same to the WR core. No Aiyuk or Deebo. The opposite corner play will always be inconsistent. And Kyler to Hopkins is going to be a problem for years. What a dumb move by the Texans.

    The Cardinals took this game. The defense isn’t as sharp, but who knows if that’s because they missed preseason or what. Either way, nothing to worry about for now. If this is still the issue at Week 6 or 7, then yeah, we’ll talk more.
     
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    Bosa going down sucks. Just awful for the guy. It hasn’t been confirmed that it was an ACL tear but it goes without saying. Looks like they’ll turn to a couple of free agents they’ve been bringing in over the last month to fill in. Ziggy Ansah has been the name floating.

    Solomon Thomas going down is tough too because it’s eating into their depth. His is not as serious, but with Bosa likely out for the year, Ronald Blair not due back until closer to Week 8 and Dee Ford still ailing... they’re going to be hurting with their rotation. Sherman may be back next week, but I’d side with caution and just sit him. Same with Kittle. I’m sure they’ll lobby to play, but against the Giants with Barkley? Meh, sit em. This team still has enough talent and chemistry to win with Mullens under the center.

    They have the Giants, Eagles and Dolphins before the Rams. I think they can weather the storm and come out 5-1 or 4-2 despite their injury woes.
     

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