Random Warrior thoughts

Discussion in 'All Things Warriors' started by Rob, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. Quazza

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    you have to include Cam Reddish in the comparison though for that trade to be fairly judged
     
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    The general meaning of my post was more about comparing Trae to Steph, but if it's about the Luka/Trae deal, sure, Cam was also part of that.
     
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    I am sick of talking about Covid, lets bring this back to sports!

    10 years ago today, Lacob and Gruber purchased the Warriors. I was very skeptical, but damn what a job the entire organization has done.

    They paid $450 million for a team now worth $3.5 billion...what an investment!
     
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    That moment at Oracle when him and Guber got introduced and he had the famous line... "That is one lonely flag up there... we want another one!" Little did we know that ten years from then, we had to multiply that statement by 3!

    Other memorable moment was the night he got booed during Mullin's jersey retirement ceremony. Monta just got traded for injury prone Bogut... which, we can look back and just laugh at how well that ended up working.

    Best part, though, was Rick Barry grabbing the mic and telling people to settle down. Probably the last guy you go to if you want to settle down a crowd lol
     
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    I was at that game, and was disgusted about the lack of respect for Chris Mullin, that was the reason I was at the game.
     
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    I was at that game too. I yelled at people around me who were booing. Told em to knock it off. Dumb asses. I was excited about that move. Even with an injured Bogut. It was so clear Monta and Steph were not going to work together.
     
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    Great thing about Bogut, even if they didn’t use him all that much during certain playoff games he was always a threat. If someone is getting to the rim too much, just send Andrew in to shut that shit down. On the offensive end you have his passing, great pick setting and more than capable finishing. I think his positives outweigh any negatives on that end of the court. He was a perfect center for Steph and Klay both for passing and pick setting.

    Only cons being a lack of perimeter shot and perimeter defending
     
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    Ekpe Udoh was part of that trade. Statistically, he did not put up great numbers. But he was a +/- king. The game changed defensively when he was in. Some fans did not want to see him go.

    And man, looking back, the one lottery miss in the 2010s was taking Udoh over Paul George. That’s an alternate timeline that would’ve been interesting especially if they were still able to draft Klay in 2011 and Draymond in 2012.
     
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    The NBA moved the lottery up. It’ll be on August 20th instead of the 25th. So now we are officially less than a month away from being able to argue about something new Dubs related! ;)
     
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    Thank the Lord! I am pretty excited about baseball starting Thursday as well. Got my fantasy baseball draft tomorrow night...a slice of normal.

    And NBA games starting in less than 2 weeks.
     
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    Very surreal to see baseball again the other day. I was skeptical they'd play after the ugly labor dispute.

    Excited to see the NBA back. The bubble has proven to be a success so far with their testing and tracing. Still a long ways to go, but my optimism for them to finish the season without any hiccups is pretty high. It would take some major irresponsibility for it to fail and end. How they figure out the 2020-21 season is another discussion for later.
     
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    I'm on the fence about the NBA season. It's not the same without the Dubs. And it definitely won't be the same having the playoffs in the bubble. I don't like this system at all (because teams should be playing not just in front of their fans, but at least in their own court) but it probably was the safest way to finish the season, that's true.

    Guess we'll see what happens.
     
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    I think the NBA missed an opportunity and while the facilities in Orlando are probably unmatched they should have set up in a smaller location, inho., for several reasons.

    Safety, coronavirus.. They should have gone to a state that is doing well with their numbers and and response to the pandemic, and set up in a smaller sized town.
    Less opportunity for players to sneak out of the bubble and get infected.
    Cheaper area. Some of these teams took a huge hit and could have saved money if they set up in a cheaper less desirable area.

    Just a few thoughts..
     
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    I don't know. It's such a huge number of players and variables, that a smaller, cheaper market, would have had trouble meeting requirements.

    Financially, it makes sense. Logistically, I don't know. Maybe.

    Still, my biggest gripe is that the playoffs will all be played without home-court advantage. That's huge for certain teams.
     
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    That’s tough. Any scenario that’s not the normal one just doesn’t feel right.

    Between the choices they had, Orlando was probably a safer option than Las Vegas even with Florida cases surging. It was expensive to set up, but the Disneyworld campuses are arguably one of the most secure places in the world. Security there is so high, you wouldn’t even know it was. And on top of that, the NBA and NBPA hired their own private security to secure who comes in and out of the bubble.

    And I know we joked about it, but sneaking someone in has a 100% chance failure rate and stepping outside the bubble... well, there’s already been two examples and that was just to pick up their Postmates food order delivery.

    Zion, Harrell and Pat Bev left for family emergencies and they have to go through a series of quarantines before they can rejoin. Alex Caruso turned down going to his sister’s wedding because of it.
     
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    If they had set the camp in Vegas, they would have had to hire extra security just to keep guys inside the bubble...
     
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    Interesting article here. I couldn't post it in full because it is over the 1000 character limit so I just kept the stuff about the Warriors in. Full article is at this link: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...cial-turmoil-portends-future-payroll-problems

    Quite a bit to unpack, but the overall sum of it all is that we're about to witness the flexibility gap between the Joe Lacob's of the NBA versus the Glen Taylor's of the NBA.

     
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    Yeah, long-term deals are going to be tough to find for most players. I think, in terms of free-agency, that's going to be the biggest issue. It won't matter for guys like Giannis or other top players, but I think the rest of the contracts will go down, in terms of long-term security and also in terms of payment. The NBA will shrink for a while before going back to where it was.

    As for owners, we'll see... I guess each case will be different. Lots of variables, very hard to predict what will happen in each case, because the TV money will be there, but everything else won't be the same for a while.
     
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    The biggest one I noticed was that the Dubs pull in one of the highest gates in ticket sales. So if there’s little to no fans by December (concerts included), that $250m private loan sounds like one solution to how Joe handles staying aggressive financially to build the roster up again.

    There’s going to be a solid selection of vets this offseason, who would’ve commanded more than the MLE in a non-COVID impacted world, that could be wearing a Warriors uni come next season because of this.

    People complained about the cap spike that opened the door to sign KD. There may be a chance that in the post-COVID world, there will be something similar that would open the door for the Warriors to try that again.
     

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