Random Warrior thoughts

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  1. Rob

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    nice to see a good win again. Also good to see Steph back in Steph form. Need to put together a streak, and then get Draymond back and start dominating the league again.
     
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    Another solid win, but the second unit continues to struggle a bit. Cavs should not have made it that competitive, but I suppose it was at home for them, they got off to a competitive start in the first half and then the Ws took control in the second, for the most part, letting them sniff getting back in it but not for too long. Jerebko continues to be solid. Looney putting in solid minutes too. Livingston earned some dap too.

    While I'm focused on this season, I'm really wondering about Lacob/Myers plan going forward. Is it really to keep all four all stars and a scrub like bench?
    They really just need a good shot blocker/Rebounder/lob finisher with this cast and they're unstopable. Is that Cousins? for this season only?
    Scrappy players like Jerebko and a reliable 3 and D sg would really round the bench out nicely.
    Getting KD was a result of all their hard work (Iggy, Steph, Klay, Dray, and Liv)
    Getting other ring chasers on board is probably part of the plan... Is Ariza a possibility?
    It's interesting because while a lot of teams got a lot better this year, especially in the East, no one in the West is standing out right now as potential Warrior killers.
    Things will begin to take more shape by the end of January.
     
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    Not sure I agree with that, Money. The west is a meat grinder, while there are maybe four good teams in the east. Toronto, Boston, Philly and Milwaukee are good, but the rest of the east is nothing particularly menacing (although Indy and Detroit, with some healthy and a couple of good additions, can become tough teams).

    The west, on the other side... other than Phoenix, nobody really has a bad team in the west. That's also part of the reason this season is going to be tougher in the regular season. We've had injuries, and as soon as we get our guys back and healthy, we should be the team to beat, but the road is incredibly tougher in the west. And I'm concerned about the number of injuries we're having, because our main guys aren't exactly getting younger. That may play a role in the playoffs as well.
     
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    I think we need to try and push the 4 all star plan as far as possible? If KD leaves, what options do we have as far as cap goes? We would need to be under the cap to really supplement the team right? I'm not sure where this team would be minus KD's salary and a few other guys. But i don't think we'd have enough cap space to really fill out the roster.
     
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    Well I did say that almost every team has improved, and I did not say that it would be easy for the Ws in the West. But no team has emerged as clearly having a good shot at beating us. Last year by this time, it was clear the Rockets were taking their best shot. This year, the playing field is a lot more level. There are teams that can beat us on any given night, but I don't think anyone has emerged that looks like they can beat us in a 7 game series.
     
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    Not even in the East. If we stay healthy and without drama in the locker room, it's not even close.

    But, if I had to choose, I think Denver could be really tough. Denver has a complete team that runs their offense through the most unique center to ever play the game. Jokic can rebound, score and might be the best passer in the league, which makes him particularly hard to defend. And they've got a really good roster. They don't really have a true PG, but with Jokic on the court, it's not like they need one.

    As for the East, we'll talk about it some other day, but I think Toronto is really good and still has room to improve. Kawhi is playing at probably 85% of his best level, and that's the next gear they're going to need to make the finals.
     
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    So, Draymond is still being held out despite wanting to play... could be nothing, could be the Warriors just being cautious.

    Regarding Draymond, KD and salaries. It is my understanding that if KD leaves, the Warriors will have enough cap room to replace KD with another superstar, but only if they don't give Draymond a significantly smaller than max contract.

    If you are management what would you want to do...
    - Trade Draymond and hope KD stays. If he doesn't then hope to replace KD with another all star.
    - Keep Draymond and let KD go.
    - See if Boogie will work out for us and let Draymond and KD go.

    Aren't those the real options in front of management?

    Oh, wait I forgot another option...
    - Pour rainbow sprinkles on our ice cream, pretend it is fairy dust, and hope and pray that both Draymond and KD will becomes besties again and everything will great!
     
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    Absolutely not. Klay is heading to free agency and will get a max, or close to max, deal. There goes your cap room... we can keep our own guys, but the only way to add another star would be to lose both Draymond and KD (and Cousins, because he's a one-year rental and won't sign a similar deal next summer).
     
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    I'm sure they have a plan in place, and contingency plans in place, and given their track record, I'm not trippin...

    This will all get worked out.
     
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    I cannot imagine how Jordan and the Worm kept it together, but they did...

    The idea here is, KD has a chance to be a part of something bigger than him, a part of history. His best chance to do that, is RIGHT FUCKING HERE, at Golden State. Not somewhere else. He can become part of one of the best teams ever assembled and hold that dominance over several seasons, or he can go try to be the man somewhere else.
    My money says that at the end of the year, after the Warriors win another championship, KD looks for a way to stay. You don't walk away from that kind of run. And he also realizes how important Draymond is to that run.... There's your butterflies and rainbows and fairy tales... (Hendrix reference intended)
     
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    I doubt they have a contingency plan, simply because nobody knows what KD is gonna do. And nobody knows for how much Klay and Draymond are willing to re-sign. I think Klay can re-sign for a bit less than the max (but close), but Draymond has already said there won't be any discounts for his next contract.

    So... it's a pretty tough situation right now. It's better if the team just tries to focus on just this season. There's not much that can be done until KD reveals what he's going to do, other than talking with Klay's people about his next deal.

    I also think KD will stay. Signing a long term deal? That I don't know. But I think it makes more sense for him to stay.
     

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