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  1. MadBallers

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    That is so crazy, I would not believe it without seeing it. And yes, to TMC's point, stay away from DC in mid November.
     
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    Lol very freaky.

    There will be an E:60 about Alex’s injury. The promo looked pretty cool. It’s amazing he is even on a path to returning. I remember him saying he actually almost died because an infection nearly took him out during surgery.
     
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    Frank Gore signs with the Jets. I love Frank Gore, and everybody who doesn't love him is wrong. The Jets are probably not a good bet to have a successful season (at least in terms of wins) but I'm happy to still see him playing at a high level. What an amazing career!
     
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    He’ll be 37 next week and still going strong. His longevity might be what tips the scale for a HoF nod.
     
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    Worse players have made it to the HOF. Gore is a lock.
     
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    Gore will make the HOF, he had the numbers 4 years ago. I just hope the man can walk by the time he is 50.
     
  7. TMC

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    So the owners are going to vote on a plan about incentivizing hiring minority HCs/GMs. Which is necessary.

    But the plan is so ridiculous that the draft spot might be altered, going up 6 spots in the third round in case of a minority HC and up to 10 spots in case of hiring a minority GM. Also, a team's 4th round pick might go up 5 spots if that minority hire remains with the team for three seasons.

    That's total, complete BS. You're penalizing the fans of the team of teams that don't hire minority candidates, because the owner won't change his (or her) approach to hiring for just a slight adjustment in the third round. And obviously you can't do that with first-rounders or you'd have a mutiny coming from the rest of the teams. Also, what happens if you have a very high pick in the third round? Because usually bad teams change coaches more often than good teams, and I haven't read anything about that move up affecting the second round (don't think it's gonna happen, so if you've got the top pick in the third round, you basically got no benefit).

    If they want to do that, force them to make 33% of each position hires a minority candidate. That's it. That way, you know a minority hire will take place at least every three coaches a team hires. One every three GMs. Then you're close to an even field. You can even increase the % later on, in a few years. It's bold, but it works. The proposed plan is merely cosmetic, imho.
     
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    It is certainly a serious issue that has never been dealt with properly. But I agree TMC, this is a terrible idea, too many people loose in this scenario. I doubt this gets too far in the planning stages.

    The idea you suggested is much better than this crap.
     
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    I saw they tabled that for now. Which is great, because that needed a lot more amending before they actually rolled it out.

    Tom Brady's going to do a 9-part series on his Super Bowl runs. Each episode will be from his perspective talking through the 6 wins and 3 losses. Should be interesting to view it from his mind.
     
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    Not here to talk about the tragic events in Minnesota or the protests that followed. I’m here just amazed of how much Kaepernick’s impact has evolved through the years. He lost his career because of his actions. But his actions have resonated with so many. I wasn’t around for Ali or Ghandi or Malcolm X so I’ve never experienced a public figure in my time on this planet make an impact the way they did like Colin has socially. I’ve seen celebrities try to replicate bringing awareness. But there’s something about sports that amplifies your platform. And it just goes to show how powerful of a platform sports is and how responsible athletes need to be when they earn it. Because they only get so much time on that stage before they retire. And the legacy they can create can end up being so much more than the legacy that’s created when the play clock starts ticking.
     
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    All true. But also terribly sad. The NFL has sent an awful message, stand up for something we don't like and you're out of the game. That's going to detract a lot of guys from speaking up. Colin already has a legacy, but I think we're going to miss a lot of powerful messages due to the NFL punishing Colin by keeping him out of the league. It's a terrible message that the NFL owners should be embarrassed about.

    And I'm not saving a single one, even if your team doesn't need a QB, you could send a great message by signing him as your backup. Nobody did. They've destroyed his career and that's going to be problematic for the future of other kids that, in other circumstances, would use sports as their platform to send powerful, much-needed messages.
     
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    In the random tidbit of the day that you didn't know and didn't need to know, I just learned that the Chicago Bears have nine tight ends on their roster.

    Nine.
     
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    Low risk, high reward move for the Patriots. If Cam can find his MVP form, the post-Brady era in New England won’t be so bad. If not, then the Patriots barely spent a dime giving him a shot.
     
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    I think it makes a lot of sense for both sides.

    Still has to beat Stidham for the starting spot, which I find mildly funny...
     
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    Just curious, anyone here find the Redskins name offensive? Or know someone personally that does? Or even know someone who’s Native American and supports it. Open forum here, so I won’t pass judgment whether you do or don’t.

    I bring it up because the name change is gaining more momentum. Sponsors have stepped in and their biggest, FedEx, is really putting pressure. Nike stopped advertising their apparel on their website. The Cleveland Indians are even considering a name change. I’m curious that if this does happen, will the Chiefs and Braves do the same? Will they eliminate any Native American representation in their logos? Or if that chant will get nixed? Interesting times we’re living in, I’ll say that.
     
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    It is absolutely offensive to me. It is unbelievable to me how the name Redskins lasted this long. It will be changed before the season they were saying on NFL network today
     
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    There is a big difference between Indians, Chiefs and Redskins.
     
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    I would group the Indians in, though, because their race is Native American... not Indian. People wrongfully call them Indian because of Christopher Columbus’ failure to find India.

    The Chicago Blackhawks should be looped in, too. The list can go on, but we’ll start with the obvious suspects.
     
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    I never found it offensive, but that's more of a cultural thing than anything, as in, I grew up and live way outside the USA, so the way I saw things back in the day is through the lens of someone that wasn't affected AT ALL. Obviously, racism here is also a problem, just one that goes vs a different segment of the population. It's different, but the bottom line is the same. But I'm saying so because we never really thought about the Redskins name when growing up. It's just not possible to comprehend the racism behind it when you grow up with that name, and even gets thrown at you in movies and the like. Kinda get used to them being "the Redskins" and don't realize how it can be offensive, because nobody in your country gets affected.

    So, with that said, I totally understand why it's offensive. And if it is offensive to a whole group of people, as in this case (and not just isolated individuals, because that's ALWAYS going to happen), I've got no problem with a name change. I think the Indians, eventually, are on the same boat. I don't think the Chiefs should change it, tho. It's not the same, imho.

    I hated when they changed the Bullets' name, tho. Just saying and hoping they get to choose a better one.
     
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    My ex-wife's best friend is Native American (one of the pacific NW tribes with a name I could never pronounce.) She and her dad were born and raised on a reservation. Both football fans. They didn't care about the name Redskins or any of the other Native American sports team names. They are Duck and Seahawk fans.

    I worked with a full blood Cherokee guy for a few years. He didn't care about any of the names, but he didn't like the mascot for the Cleveland Indians. He felt like it was mocking Native Americans. That guy was a total badass btw. He was the head of security where I worked, and he and his four brothers were all Army Rangers.
     

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