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  1. Rob

    Rob NBA All-Star Staff Member

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    much more exciting offseason than the one in baseball haha.. good stuff so far.

    I do like the Niners approach so far. Not making too big of a splash, throwing money around carelessly.
     
  2. TMC

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    Sam Bradford keeps making money. Probably the highest paid QB ever to not have a HOF career, or even a great one. This time, Arizona is going to pay him $20 million because nobody else that matter was willing to go there.

    And Bradford is not a bad QB, don't get me wrong. But he's not a dominant one, and he's been paid like one of the last 10 years. So weird.
     
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    the amount of money being thrown around right now is insane!!! Some really bad contracts being given. ouch
     
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    Normally I wouldn't praise any Browns, but Joe Thomas is retiring. 10 Pro Bowls in 11 seasons. A sure fire Hall of Famer. And a guy that spent his whole career playing for a lousy team, losing 128 games, averaging 4 wins per season... and never, not once, asked to be traded or released. That's the kind of guy Joe Thomas is.
     
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    Sad for Joe. Love that guy. Such a shame he did not get to play in a playoff game.
     
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    There must be something in the water in Miami, because everybody's leaving that team... Mike Pouncey has requested his release and it's going to happen later today. Extremely good center, when health allows him to play.
     
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    South Florida sucks balls. Hopefully the Dolphins will be horrible for years!
     
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    Josh Sitton, who just signed with the Dolphins, being asked for the difference between playing RG and LG (he's moving to RG in Miami, having played LG for his whole career):

    "It's like trying to wipe your ass with the other hand"

    :D
     
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    Haha, man I have never tried that...don't think it would end well. ;):D
     
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    Ravens got lucky. They signed Ryan Grant to a deal nobody in their right mind could understand, just to see him fail his physical (although he says he'd be able to play tonight, if needed... it's weird, Baltimore probably realized the how crazy the deal was just in time) and have replaced him with Michael Crabtree, a much better player signed to a cheaper deal. Really like this signing for them. Flacco is going to love him in the red zone.

    Rich get richer, as New England signed Adrian Clayborn (forget about his 9.5 sacks last year, that was an aberration... but he's a useful player, there's no denying that), Jeremy Hill (weird how things change, Hill had a great rookie season, but didn't play well since his fumble in the playoffs vs the Steelers... still, it's a high upside deal) and Matt Tobin (and he's not gonna have an easy time replacing Nate Solder). All good value deals.

    Texans pay Tyrann Mathieu $7 million, a one year deal. Good addition to their secondary if he manages to stay healthy...

    LeGarrette Blount signs a one year, $2 million (with a lot of incentives, that can bring the final amount to $4.5 million) with the Lions. Patricia knows him well, and he's probably what the Lions running game needed. I like this deal. Wouldn't it be fun if Blount were to win another SB with yet another team? (Answer: no, it would be f*cking sad, because that would mean that he's won the SB with every team he's been except the f*cking Bucs. Let's not make it happen!).

    Packers sign Kyle Fuller to a contract. Bears match it in less than five hours. Not even sure what the Packers were thinking, Chicago had a ton of cap space and the contract didn't include any kind of poison pill.

    Vikings add Sheldon Richardson. They go all in for the SB. It's now or never (at least for Spielman... if this offseason signings backfire, he'll be out of a job).
     
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    NY Jets have traded up to #3, sending their #6 overall pick and three second rounders to Indy in order to secure that pick. That's a steep price in order to secure that pick...

    Got the feeling Rosen is their guy. Darnold and Allen also have potential, the only QB I wouldn't touch is Baker Mayfield.

    The trade is great for the Colts, because they already have their franchise QB and now have several more picks to add talent to a team that needs it in spades. I'm sure they're taking Chubb or Barkley if available, and now Nelson is in play as well. They'll be happy with whoever falls to them. And now they get three additional second rounders... Great deal for Indy. It'll be a good deal for NY as well if they pick the right QB...
     
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    Love your NFL updates TMC! Keep up the good work
     
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    My very early, very wrong first mock draft:

    1.- Browns - Sam Darnold. The Jets deal changes the whole landscape, forcing the Browns to take a QB first overall. It's Darnold because Allen is too raw, Rosen has said openly he doesn't want to play for them and Mayfield is too much of a risk.
    2.- Bills - Josh Rosen. The Bills are trading up for a QB, that much I'm sure of. And, if they try to wait and trade with Indy or Denver, they won't have a choice of the QB they want. May not even have a QB available at all. So I think the Bills will send their two first rounders, a second and a future pick to NY for the #2 overall pick and take Rosen.
    3.- Jets - Josh Allen. I think the Jets traded up in order to take Rosen. But he's gone because the Bills traded up as well, so they'll have to settle for Allen.
    4.- Browns - Saquon Barkley. RB is not their biggest need, but Barkley is a playmaker that will make life easier for Darnold. They've signed Carlos Hyde, but that shouldn't be a deterrant here. Barkley is that good.
    5.- Broncos - Quenton Nelson. They might take a QB, but I think they take one later in order to develop him or wait a year to do so. Nelson is ready to help right now and is going to be a huge improvement to the o-line of any team that drafts him. Can't go wrong with him.
    6.- Colts - Bradley Chubb. Massive drop-off from Chubb to other DEs in this draft and fits a need for the Colts.
    7.- Bucs - Derwin James. With no Nelson/Barkley/Chubb available, we're forced to take one of the next level of talents, and we have to go defense in this scenario. I don't like Fiztpatrick, Davenport would be a reach at #7 and I think the team believes they can get a good CB later. So James is the pick. Wouldn't be too pissed off in this scenario, although I like Ward at a lot.
    8.- Bears - Denzel Ward. I'd say they'd go with Fitzpatrick, but they've got young and talented safeties and Ward is a better CB.
    9.- 49ers - Roquan Smith. With everything that's happening with Reuben Foster, the Niners better add options to their LB corps. Smith is as good as it gets in this draft.
    10.- Oakland Raiders - Da'Ron Payne. This pick is between Vita Vea, Payne and Fitzpatrick. And I think Payne has the highest ceiling.

    I think Arizona will come calling to some teams at the end of the top 10, but price will be too steep for the chance to draft Mayfield, so the order won't change. Still, I can see a team like the Bears, Niners or Raiders trading down and getting more picks.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, why would you touch Mayfield TMC?
     
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    I guess that's a "wouldn't", unless I f*cked up my writing in some other post... if not, it's a bit creepy, bro. ;)

    Well, I don't like Mayfield. I think he has maturity issues, is inconsistent and has terrible footwork. On the other side, he can extend plays and throws a good ball. But I don't like his intangibles at all. I see a lot of bust potential, even more than any other QB in this draft. Hence why I wouldn't draft him that high. Actually, I'd rather take Lamar Jackson than Mayfield...
     
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    New round of signings, now that the frenzy is over:

    - Orlando Scandrick, released by Dallas, signs with the Redskins. 2 years, $10 million. It's a decent deal, because it gives the Redskins an experienced CB to play opposed to Norman and replace the guys that left.

    Btw, why do so many guys in the NFL sign with rivals of their former teams? Seems like it happens a lot more in the NFL than in other sports...

    - LA Chargers sign Mike Pouncey. 2 years, $15 million. Pouncy is a good center. He just has to find a way to stay healthy (although he played the whole season last year, for the first time in the last five years).

    - Eric Ebron signs with the Colts. Again, 2 years, $15 million (including incentives). Decent signing because the Colts need all the help they can get and doesn't compromise their cap. Ebron has talent. He just has to show it more often than in his Detroit tenure.
     
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    I definitely share your concerns on maturity issues... much like I did with Winston. I am not as down on his skills though. His height also is pause for concern and certainly bust potential there. Although Josh Allen is the guy who gets a GM fired in my opinion.
     
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    I'm not gonna deny that. Allen scares me as well.

    I think Rosen is the best QB prospect in this draft, by far. Then, it's probably Darnold. Then... Lamar Jackson, and there's not a huge distance between 2 and 3. That's my top 3.
     
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    More moves:

    - Jags release Marcedes Lewis and Allen Hurns. I can understand releasing Lewis after they signed ASJ and Niles Paul, they've upgraded the position. But Hurns is a head-scratcher. They're heading into the season with Marquise Lee, Dede Westbrook, Keelan Cole and Donte Montcrief as their WRs. Hurns was the one with more experience and, allegedly, the most talented (I say allegedly because I liked what I saw of Keelan Cole last season and think he can have a good year). I understand not re-signing Allen Robinson, but cutting Hurns as well? Also, the timing is weird...

    - Seahawks sing DJ Fluker, not sure where he's going to play in their line (I mean not sure if he's going to be a tackle or a guard, but he's going to start). Underrated signing, imo.

    - Niners sign Jonathan Cooper. He hasn't done too well anywhere, but it's a one-year, risk-free deal.

    - Cowboys send Olawale to Dallas, swapping their 6th round pick for Dallas' fifth round pick.

    - Safety Morgan Burnett signs with the Steelers. Their secondary can use the help.

    - And, Ryan Grant, who wasn't healthy enough to play for the Ravens after signing a $4 year, $29 million deal that was voided, signs with the Colts. It's a one year deal, and he has passed the physical this time. Pretty sure the Ravens backed down when they realized the kind of deal he was going to sign...
     
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    More signings:

    - Eagles get better, as they replace Torrey Smith with Mike Wallace.

    - Another WR that finds a home... Terrelle Pryor signs with the Jets. No word on the length and money of the deal yet.
     

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