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Discussion in 'Know Your Enemy' started by Quazza, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. xbay

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    Nice to see Carmelo capitalizing on his redemption campaign. He’s been great for Portland. If they can get that 8th seed, they could take the Lakers to 7. Potentially beat them. Without home court, it’s certainly possible. They’ve missed Nurkic so much. He’s been HUGE for them. Gary Trent Jr’s development is paying off, too. If Ariza didn’t opt out, they would be even tougher.

    I have so many other thoughts, but I’ll hold them until we officially see the playoff seeding.
     
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    Having Nurkic back has been great for them. Changes the whole dynamic of the team and makes them a real dangerous matchup. And playoff Dame is always great.
     
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    Stan Van Gundy color commentary > Jeff Van Gunny color commentary. One guy talks about the game, the other complains about it. As unfortunate as it is to not hear Marv Albert for the resumption, giving Ian Eagle/SVG a chance to shine has been perfect. If Mark Jackson ends up coaching the Brooklyn Nets, I'd love to see SVG replace him. Breen with the Van Gundy brothers on the ESPN/ABC would be elite.

    Also, if you didn't catch Draymond replacing Shaq for today on the Inside the NBA crew... it is great television. I'm sure someone will post a recap on YouTube shortly.
     
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    "Get my man Book out of Phoenix"

    "Are you tampering ?"

    "....I might be"

    :D
     
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    "Are you trying to be fined?"

    ".........I might be"
     
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    Steph shouted out Embiid for joining the Under Armour brand. Draymond was critical of Embiid taking jumpers over posting up.

    Who said they had to be in the bubble to tamper? :D
     
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    Tampering rules are a joke. Seems it's only tampering when a GM or personnel guy does it. And the fines aren't that big.

    If the NBA is worried about tampering, this is what they should do:

    First tampering sanction ==> 10 games suspension or equivalent time away from the team.
    Second tampering sanction ==> 30 games suspension or equivalent time away from the team.
    Third (and following) tampering sanction ==> 50 games suspension or equivalent time away from the team.

    And tampering is over, all of a sudden.

    If I've got criticism for Silver and the NBA is that they're letting the players run the league. And that's a bad plan. because it always ruins parity, and that was the best part of NBA basketball. It helped us win two rings, true, but overall, it's ruining the league. I think players have to be well compensated (even more than they are, pending on league revenue), but it's gotten to a point that it's taking me (and I'm sure I'm not the only one) away from the game with all this BS about guys deciding where they want to play or with whom.
     
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    My biggest gripe and why I believe the ratings are no where as strong as they could be... they suck at promoting the product. When color commentators (like JVG) and media analysts sh*t on the product, it does nothing for the game. Listen to NFL color commentators and then listen to NBA color commentators. Who actually talks about the game and both teams proportionally? Then you have an increased load management and players saying how the regular season doesn’t matter. And media puts heavy TMZ coverage on player movement, they sh*t on the Warriors for 3 seasons and then praise the Clippers and Lakers for creating these great teams?

    The tampering is just the tip of the iceberg. But that Kawhi/PG transaction just screamed tampering regardless of how it ended up being resolved.
     
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    Simmons out for the season, and with him, the whole Sixers season.

    The east is a waste now, tho. Between injures players and bad teams, I think Boston has a chance to compete with Milwaukee (not much of a chance, but a chance at least) and I'd like to see Miami doing well (and Miami is the kind of team that can steal any game, but won't be able to do it over a series). Toronto and Indiana are in the same boat as Miami, can steal a game here and there, but that's it. Brooklyn and Orlando aren't good enough to be in the playoffs. So Milwaukee vs Boston is my bet for the conference finals.

    As for the west, I don't have a clue what's going to happen. I don't think anybody does. No home-court is going to be an issue for the top teams. And the LA teams aren't playing particularly well...
     
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    All available and healthy... Clippers all the way. Blazers can give the Lakers a run for their money. Lakers have some pieces. If they get it rolling, you never know, Lebron can take a lot worse teams to the WCF. If Rondo and Bradley aren't healthy, they're done. At they won't get past the top 2 teams that way. I think the Blazers could take them to 7 games. Houston, Dallas and Denver? What happened to Denver? They're in third place but why do I think they aren't going anywhere...
     
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    Bradley opted out due to the Covid, so he won't be available. Rondo should be back for the playoffs.

    As for Denver, Jamal Murray came back yesterday, Jokic is still Jokic (despite a bad game during the bubble, but he's been great other than that single game) and Michael Porter Jr. seems to have taken the leap. I'd be careful to bet against them.

    In fact, I think everybody in the west has a chance, except for OKC and Memphis (if the Grizzlies make the playoffs, that is). Even Dallas. Doncic has been playing at MVP level, and that alone gives them a chance.
     
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    OKC’s gonna be a tough out, but I agree, it’s such a toss up. On paper, it’s the Clippers. But based on bubble play, it’s an open lane. The Blazers and Suns have better odds against the Lakers in a 7-game series than the Grizzlies, though, IMO.

    The East is a 5-team race now with Simmons out and Embiid uncertain. I personally like Boston’s upside. If Kemba stays healthy, they’re going on a deep run. Bucks vs Celtics would be the ideal conference final for the NBA. But Miami and Toronto are going to be tough to eliminate. Indiana, too, if TJ Warren keeps lighting it up. We’re going to see a lot of Game 7’s this year.
     
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    Alvin Gentry's going to get the boot once the season is over, per many reports. Unfortunate, but the results speak for themselves. Jason Kidd and Ty Lue are candidates for the gig.

    I'd love to see Gentry back with Kerr, but Mike Brown's not going anywhere (as he shouldn't).
     
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    In a season where Zion barely played, with a ton of young players and after helping Ingram take the leap, I think it's extremely unfair. He deserved one more season.

    I'm not surprised, tho...
     
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    It's been very fun to watch the tear Dame's on to potentially propel them into the playoffs. They're now in the 8th seed for the play in game where they'd only have to win once, rather than twice if they were the 9th seed. As fun as Ja Morant's been this year, I'd love to see Booker and Dame go at it during the play in. Either way, Portland has a real shot at sending the Lakers home without home court advantage. Whiteside is going to be a crucial rotation player off the bench. If he plays like how he did against Dallas, they're in a good spot. If not, he is a liability, mainly defensively.

    I think this 8/9 play in has proven a success and we haven't even got to the actual play in. In pre-COVID world, some of the teams battling for 8th would've rested their top guys and prepared for next year. Instead, they've all provided some great games to end the year. If the NBA is serious about promoting the regular season and why it matters... this is one thing they need to continue to do.
     
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    Having Nurkic back changed everything for the Blazers. And this team is their most dangerous of the last few years. Dame and Nurkic run the show, and Melo and McCollum have been a great help. Gary Trent Jr. also gives them some scoring punch from the bench and has been playing really well.

    I think a fully healthy Blazers team is close to the top 4 of the west. Making the playoffs at 8th makes them a truly dangerous rival for LA.
     
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    Where do you rank Nurkic on your list of top active (true) centers in the league? I would be put Embiid at 1, but after that it's a crapshoot. After him, in no particular order, I'd choose Jokic, Nurkic, Gobert and Towns.
     
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    I think Jokic is the clear #2.

    Not sure after that. I'm not a fan of Towns. He might be the best in terms of talent, but the effort on both sides of the court ain't there. He should be top 3 along with Embid and Jokic, but I'm not sure where to rate him at this point. Might go 5th easily.

    Guess I'd have Nurkic #3 right now but that might change from game to game.
     
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    Clippers vs Nuggets? 6pm tonight... Might catch a little of that game.
     
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    I haven't watched much. A few Blazers games, just to watch Dame, one Pels game because of Zion. That's it.

    Playing without fans is tough to watch.


    Btw, most playoffs matchups are set, pending whatever happens with the 8th seed in the west. Hopefully, the Blazers make it, because if any other team does, the Lakers will sweep the court with them.

    As for the rest of the matchups, I think LAC vs Dallas is going to be great. Doncic and Porzings give the Mavs a chance (even if it's not too big a chance) in any game. I expect the Nuggets and Rockets to beat Utah and OKC, although Westbrook's status is still unknown for the playoffs.

    In the East, Milwaukee should beat Orlando quickly, Toronto should do the same with Brooklyn (although the Nets have played surprisingly well in the bubble, without their stars), Boston should get rid of Philly and the only series that should be interesting is the one between Miami and Indy (although Miami has won all their games this year, and I totally expect them to advance to the second round).
     

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