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Discussion in 'Know Your Enemy' started by Quazza, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. Money

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    The 42-year-old Carter is set to play his 22nd season in the NBA.

    I am in awe
     
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    42?!?!, the man is a super hero!
     
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    Very good article on ESPN about fatigue and sleep deprivation issues in the NBA. It's becoming a real problem, particularly in a league like the NBA with so many games for so long and so much traveling to different time zones.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27767289/dirty-little-secret-everybody-knows-about

    What's even worse, there's not much that can be done under the current format of the league, other than some quick fixes via scheduling to reduce the strain of those trips. One thing that could help is to have more early games, but, of course, that would f*ck up attendance to arenas, particularly on weekdays, so that's out of consideration.

    That all means players have to be extra careful with their rest. Some are, many more aren't because they don't care or don't know about the consequences and how to do it.

    It matters. It's a problem. It doesn't have an easy fix.
     
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    The 2-way contract is incredibly taxing on the body, too. I don’t know how those guys do it. Damion Lee practically looked like a zombie at times with the kind of travel he dealt with.

    I agree, I don’t know how you fix that. It’s an issue, for sure, but definitely not a quick fix. I’m not sure there’s even a “bandaid” fix for it, either.
     
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    LoL, Lebron is an ass!
     
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    So the Kings are in a quick decision-making spot. Buddy Hield was pretty vocal about getting an extension done by Monday or he’ll seek a new home. They offered him something similar to what Harrison Barnes got and he essentially ignored it. The org already spent a lot this summer and face a summer where Fox will be eligible for an extension and then Bagley in 2021. They’ll be over the cap if Hield gets what he wants, which is basically the max. Keep in mind they offered Bogdanovic an extension, too, but he’s mulling it over because he’s seen what others with his skill set have received.

    Buddy’s 27, but he’s improved every year and has been a great running mate with Fox. Last year, he was great. I don’t think they can afford to lose him, but man... that front office has shown some interesting money distribution decisions.
     
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    Talking about extensions, with both Siakam and Beal signing an extension with their current teams (the first one was totally expected, the second was only expected by guys that know Beal), and also Quinn Snyder as the Jazz Head Coach (this one extremely well earned), the market dries up a bit. Particularly with Beal, who was going to be a major objective for plenty of teams.

    I really like Beal re-signing there, tho. I like the Wizards and think they had a really good team a few years back, ready to make the leap and be a contender in the East, but injuries and terrible management led to this situation. With Grunfeld out, Beal signed long term (let's remember he's only 26 and improving every year) and some young pieces to work with (plus let's see what happens with John Wall once he comes back... one of the worst contracts in the NBA and a terrible injury to come back from, but still a really talented PG).

    Guess Buddy Hield, if he insists on leaving, might be the guy that will "replace" Beal as the most tradable asset near the trade deadline. I've also been saying all along that Sacramento was signing guys to overprized deals (because it was the only way to get them there, I guess) and they should make sure they keep the guys that matter on their roster: Fox (their best player BY FAR), Hield and Bagley. Now they're going to have trouble signing Buddy while paying a ton for a losing roster. Maybe you could have saved a bit on Cory Joseph, Trevor Ariza, Dedmon, Richaun Holmes... Oh, and let's remember Bogdanovic is also a free agent (and a better player than all of those signings) and widely expected to re-sign there for a ton of money, too.

    Divac looks to be a great guy, but managing the roster is a skill he still has to learn.
     
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    And Buddy Hield signs his extension. 4 years, $94 million, with $12 more million in incentives. Good deal for Buddy, not so great for the Kings cap situation, but he's been playing really well for Sacramento. They did have to extend him, in any case.
     
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    It's actually 86 million with incentives potentially adding 20 more mil. Exactly 1million more guaranteed than what Harrison Barnes resigned for.
     
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    Yes, but unless he suddenly has to retire, the first $8 million in incentives will be there. That's why I said $94. The remaining incentives won't be as easy to achieve, tho.

    And after Buddy signed his deal, that now looks like a bargain, Jaylen Brown signs an extension with the Celtics, also 4 years, but for $115 million!!! Talk about overpaying... Brown is good and young, but that's crazy... Then again, considering how awful next year's free agency is going to be, somebody would have signed him to a max deal. Guess the Celtics considered that as well.

    Joe Ingles also signs an extension with Utah, 1 year, $14 million. Kind of unexpected, as he's 32 already and had two more years on his deal.

    Dejounte Murray signs his extension with the Spurs as well. 4 years, $64 million that can reach $70. And I'm willing to bet this is going to be the best deal of this bunch.

    Taurean Prince also signs an extension with Brooklyn, 2 years, $29 million.

    Finally, Domantas Sabonis signs a 4 year, $77 million with the Pacers, which can go up to $85 million if he reaches certain incentives. Expected and well earned. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with Myles Turner because they haven't played well when sharing the court...


    So, with Hield, Siakam and all these guys signed to extensions, next summer's moves will have to come via trades, because the free agency pool is going to be pretty empty...
     
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    Get every dollar you can. I think a lot of these guys (not just these recent signings) are trying to collect as much as possible because you just never know when your career could end or how one injury can change it all. Look at Cousins, Noel just to name a few. Heck, Gordon Hayward signed that huge deal and then 2 minutes into his Celtics debut, he breaks his ankle.

    China fears also potentially played a part in these signings, too. Who knows what the cap could look like in a year or two with the relationship uneasy right now? Secure your money.
     
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    True.

    Still think a barren market in next year's free agency is going to lead to some truly oversized, massively stupid max deals.

    Davis will get the max, and deservedly so, from the Lakers. And then what? A 32 years old Conley getting the max somewhere else? (has two years on his deal, but a player option after this one) Andre Drummond? (also has a player option in his last year, at $29 million, and Detroit it trying to sign him to another max deal before that happens). If those guys re-sign or don't opt out, the best available free agent will be... DeMar DeRozan?
     
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    I love Jokic but man, he looks like an injury waiting to happen. Dude that size needs to lose the baby fat.
     
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    No, he’s the outlier. Keep him that way. He inspires all us guys without six-packs hope.
     
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    Matisse Thybulle might be my favorite rook. Wish he slipped to 27. I’m sure a couple Huskies fans here think the same. He’s an animal defensively and once he really develops his three, look out.
     
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    Early hunch of the season: Luke Walton is going to be the first head coach fired.

    Divac is the one that should be fired in Sacramento, but I'm not sure that's going to happen... yet.
     
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    That roster was poorly constructed. I honestly don’t know what their offensive identity is.
     
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    Currently watching Denver at Minnesota. And the Wolves have a problem if they believe you can play defense walking. Covington is the only one that tries hard, the remaining Wolves don't even try...
     

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