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Discussion in 'Know Your Enemy' started by Quazza, Aug 16, 2010.

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    LOVE watching D Rose score 50 points on the Jazz defense. Injuries and lack of confidence (from his coaches, mainly, but I'm guessing also by himself at certain points) almost killed his career, turning him into an afterthought in the NBA landscape, but he's been really, really good this season and was amazing last night, even blocking the last second shot that secured the win for Minny.

    So glad to watch him back and being an important player. The NBA is a better league with guys like him.
     
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    I think the fact that they have Kawhi makes this more true than ever. I had always been skeptical of the Raptors before, mainly because they couldn't be LeBron's Cavs, and the backcourt could score, and not defend. Things are different, so i expect the ECF to be a battle.
     
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    I keep reading speculations that go, "When the Lakers fire Luke, blah blah blah"

    At first I thought, this must be from people that don't understand what Luke Walton means to the Laker organization. They're not just going to fire him because Lebron suddenly decides he should go.
    He's a beloved figure in Lakerland. But now I've seen so many of these type of sentiments, I'm wondering if this is even a possibility? I don't think the Laker management have huge expectations this year in terms of wins. And if they put together a bad string of losses, I doubt they will blame Walton. But Lebron has a "history" of clashing with coaches.. So far seems like they are getting along fine.
    What do you make of this?
     
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    Of course. Kawhi is the one that changes everything for Toronto.

    Let's add the Bucks as well. They've lost to Boston tonight, but their defense has improved a lot (weird, because the two main signings have been Ilyasova and Brook Lopez, but that's what having a good coach do to you) and their very efficient on offense. And they've got a MVP contender in Giannis... Might even be better than Philly, although it's too early in the season to consider that.
     
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    All I've heard is that Lebron loves Luke as a coach. Everything else is the media stirring things.

    As for Lebron, I think that's an undeserved rep. He clashed with Blatt, but he got along just fine with Lue (not hard to do, Lue was handpicked by him and, according to rumors, was more of a players coach than anything) and also got along fine with Spoelstra and did as well with Mike Brown for most of his Cleveland tenure.

    I think the Lakers know they're not very good, and they've missed Ingram for a while as well. They've got talent, but their signings this summer weren't exactly going to turn them into a contender. I don't think they're in panic mode or anything... might make the playoffs as a late seed, or even miss them, but I don't think this is the year when the Lakers will panic. Next offseason is going to be the key for their future with Lebron. Any blaming and drama will wait til that point.
     
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    LeDouche = Coach Killer
     
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    I've read on several sites that Magic has been the one putting pressure on Walton, and that he's behaved like an asshole several times already, demanding wins and immediate results. Pelink and Jeannie Buss seem to realize better that the Lakers have a new team that has to gel together and that the level of talent is not right there yet...

    Talking about dysfunctional teams, can a situation get worse than the Wizards? On paper, they should be one of the top teams in the east, based on pure talent, but they have no chemistry whatsoever, do not communicate on the court, everybody tries to go to war by himself, some of the players hate each other publicly (Beal and Wall... they can't say, but it shows whenever they talk to the media), they've got several nutcases on the roster (Oubre, Dwight and several more) and are in cap hell... It's about time they have a sale, try to get rid of some of those contracts and start rebuilding. Problem is, the only guy with real value on their roster is the one they shouldn't trade, Bradley Beal... Talk about a team in trouble.

    Just one piece of advice... this time, get rid of Ernie Grunfeld first. He had two rebuilding projects in Washington already, and none worked too well. Don't give him another chance.
     
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    Damn, Jimmy Butler is a Sixer. Philly has traded for him, sending a package of Robert Covington and Dario Saric, Jerryd Bayless and a 2022 second rounder to Minny for Jimmy and Justin Patton.

    Huge bet by Philly, because Jimmy is the best player in the deal, but Convington and Saric are also valuable starters. The Sixers are in win-now mode and their window is now. A good season is probably going to be enough to keep Jimmy long term (he wanted to move to a big market, and Philadelphia is certainly one of the biggest).

    I always thought that Philly was the right team to trade for Jimmy, but didn't expect them to lose both Covington and Saric. I was thinking that one of them plus a first rounder and fillers would be a fair deal. This is a pretty decent bounty for Minny for a guy that was going to leave at the end of the season.
     
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    I like the trade. Glad he didn’t go to Houston or Lakers! And now Philly has a chance to be in the mix with Toronto and Boston at the top of the East
     
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    Yeah, I think Jimmy is a bit underrated as a player and will show what he's able to do surrounded with top talent like Simmons and Embiid. Then again, it's not a completely safe deal, because he can't agree to an extension til after the summer and we all know Jimmy has clashed with teammates before, leaving those locker rooms in shambles.

    But, even if they had to surrender more talent that I thought in order to make the deal, I LOVE the trade for Philly. Now they've got a chance to be a top contender. The East suddenly is a four-team race, and Boston shouldn't even be considered a favorite until they fix their offense. Toronto, Philly, Milwaukee and Boston make the east a really interesting conference at the top.
     
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    So the Rockets will part ways with Melo because he's not happy coming from the bench and doesn't like his role... who would have figured that was going to end badly?!?!?!

    The Rockets are saying all the right things about him, about how he accepted his role and did everything he was told to do. But, if that were true, why cut him? Because he's pouting, obviously. Doesn't matter if it's publicly or behind the scenes.

    Seriously, some guys are deluded. Melo is not the player he once was (despite occasional scoring bursts) and is not going to be easy for him to find a place to start and get the ball as often as he wants.

    But Melo will find a place to play a few more years. As I said above, there's no clear fit at this point, but certain teams like to take risks. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers or the Wizards go after him, secretly hoping he's the answer for their maladies (hint: he's not).
     
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    just read that the Pels had extensive talks with Twolves for Butler.. See, I would've liked that trade too. Even though its in the Western Conference. I would have found it an interesting trade and would have made the Pels a lot better... Immediately pushed them into the top 4 in the WC. provided they didn't have to give up Holiday or Mirotic
     
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    Guess that was the only way they would have gotten Jimmy.... They wouldn't have anything of value to trade if you take out Mirotic and Holiday.

    I think Miami's deal wasn't bad. Josh Richardson is a very good player, the kind of 3-and-D guy that most teams covet in today's NBA, and they would have sent a first round pick as well. Philly's deal adds more talent right now (Covington is a bit worse than Richardson, but he's the same kind of player... Saric has a lot of talent as well), with only a second rounder. The Philly deal makes more sense for Thibs, who might be out of a job next year unless the Wolves start winning games and end up with a good playoff run. I'm not even sure another first round exit would save him.
     
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    F*cking injuries... Caris LeVert is out for Brooklyn, and that's a tough blow, because he was having a really good season, by far the best Brooklyn player. I loved watching him compete and, at times, dominate games for a team that is growing up quite nicely.

    Seems like it's going to be a long recovery, but there are no fractures on his leg and there's a chance he might be back this season. Hope that's the case, because I really enjoyed watching him play.
     
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    Funny how, since Butler's been traded, KOT has had a 39 points and 19 rebounds game, a 25 and 21 game and a 25 and 16 game.

    Coincidence? Maybe. But if Jimmy's the locker room problem he looks like, it might not be pretty in Philly...
     
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    How fun is it that Mario Hezonja, who had one bucket in the whole game, a dunk over Gianni's, is talking shit back at Gianni's for that play? Yeah, it was a good dunk, but you don't have the right to talk back if it's the only positive thing you've done in the whole game!!!

    Regarding that game, I love how hard the Knicks are playing for Fizdale. He's really been a great fit for that team. They are not very good, particularly on offense, where they rely on Hardaway and whoever is inspired on any given game, but they always play hard. And Knox looked really good yesterday.
     

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