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Discussion in 'Know Your Enemy' started by Quazza, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. TMC

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    Having the best record in the East was just a byproduct of the Cavs turmoil and the Celtics injury woes. Toronto shouldn't have had the best record in the east, but these things happen in the NBA.

    Point is, the last three years, the Cavs have eliminated the Raptors. It wasn't so easy the first time, beating them in the conference finals 4-2, but they've been swept the last two years, and this time they looked worse than ever, poorly prepared for what was expecting them in the series, outmatched and simply run out of the playoffs for a team that was more physical and desired those wins more (and had the better player, that goes without saying).

    I think it's time for a change in Toronto, and that change should come in one or two ways, replacing Casey and giving this core another run with a different coach, or by trading DeRozan, who is the most tradable guy in the roster and will give them value in return. Lowry ain't going anywhere considering his age and contract, Ibaka is untradable til next year, Valanciunas shouldn't be traded... that leaves DeRozan as the most likely option to be traded in order to improve the roster.

    Plenty of Raptors players have been showing support for Casey, and that usually doesn't bode well for the recipient...


    But I happen to think this is going to be a crazy offseason for plenty of franchises. Teams like Milwaukee, Miami, Philly, Dallas, Portland, LA Lakers, Detroit and New York will be on the market, trying to improve their rosters, and there won't be so much money spent on free agents as two offseasons ago (although some teams will have cap space to sign one or two big contracts, like the Lakers and Sixers), so I expect plenty of trades this offseason for several teams that were good, but not as good as they hoped to be. Toronto just happens to be one of them.
     
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    Not sure about DeRozen being the most tradeable guy... 3 years left on his contract at $28m per year. Not sure he is a max contract guy you trade for by giving up good assets/draft picks. Think it would more have to be a salary dump by Toronto.
     
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    Well, he's younger than Lowry, even tho I think Lowry is the better player, but he's on the wrong side of 30. Hence why I think DeRozan is more tradeable. You can add one of their young bench players and take some salaries back and probably will find a team that takes him and trades you a good player. Also, if the Lakers miss out on George and Lebron, they might get desperate for a star to lead their young guys. I think there's a market for DeRozan.
     
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    So Masai Ujiri says that he supports coach Casey, but everybody will be reevaluated. That usually means changes are coming. Maybe not the coach, but there will be changes in Toronto, if they find the right deals.

    Meanwhile, Casey is the COY, which, sincerely, I think he was not the most worthy candidate (mine would have been Stevens, Spoelstra or Brett Brown), although I think he did a good job during the regular season. Just not enough for COY. Btw, can't believe Brad Stevens and Spoeltra didn't get a single vote.

    See you in a week, guys! Go Dubs!
     
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    As expected, the Raptors fired coach Casey. It had to happen, because they just don't have a clue how to beat Cleveland, and Casey's in-game adjustments are usually awful. Doesn't show much in the regular season, but it's a liability during the playoffs.

    It's interesting that Budenholzer is going to coach the Bucks. Great hire, but I happen to believe changes will be coming to Milwaukee's roster. They have the pieces and will make some moves to have a better, more balanced roster surrounding Giannis next season.
     
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    Pulling for Cleveland today but outside of Lebron they are terrible and have not shown they can even stay competitive in Boston much less win a game there
     
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    Did you guys the report on The Ringer about Bryan Colangelo having several "burner" twitter accounts that where he disclosed internal information about the franchise, criticize their own players, like Embiid, Okafor or Fultz, former GM Sam Hinkie and even some other guys on the league like Masai Ujiri (who took over a team that fired Colangelo back in the day) or Sixers bloggers, all while defending Colangelo relentlessly? He acknowledged that one of the accounts was his, but denied being behind the others (not like he could do anything else, as he should have been fired on the spot), but after contacting the Sixers, those accounts went private. To make things worse, some of those accounts were also following people really close to Colangelo, like his own son...

    It looks bad, bad enough to fire a guy... who in their right mind would do that? And in such a clumsy way?

    This is the most fun thing about the NBA. Always expect the unexpected!!!
     
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    yea i heard that story.. so bizarre.. Durant got so much shit for his burner account.. i think its so much worse to have an executive do something like that. It's just pointless.. what do you get out of that?
     
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    I heard about it on the radio and my response is Twitter sucks! And yeah, he should be fired.
     
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    I'm leaning more towards "people sucks" than twitter sucks at this point... haha
     
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    Fair enough, I will say they both suck...lol
     
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    I know it's not gonna happen, but I don't think you can find a better chance to name the finals MVP from the team that lost the series... I don't think anybody would oppose to Lebron being the MVP of the finals, even if his team ends up losing.

    Would be weird, but not unfair.
     
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    Depends on how many games the series goes. If they lose in 4 or 5..no way. He is obviously the most dominant force in this series, but if he gets swept or loses in 5... he should not get FMVP
     
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    So Bryan Colangelo has resigned (sort of, more like "you decide if you want to resign or be fired") as president of basketball operations of the Sixers. Way to f*ck up a career, because right now he's basically unhirable for any front office. The twitter gaffe has cost him more than he could ever imagine.


    You know what would make this perfect? The Sixers having the guts to hire Sam Hinkie again... :D
     
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    Well, looks like Kawhi wants out of San Antonio. Lots of talk that he wants to play for either LA team. As he is not a free agent, it would require a trade. While I would hate to see Kawhi in a Laker uni, one consolation for me is the thought that Lonzo be part of the trade so that dick head papa LaVar would have to deal with Popovich. Oh man, that would be FUN to watch.
     
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    That would be funny as hell to watch...
    Cept there has been talk about Pop only coaching for another year or two... So the entertainment would be good but probably short lived...
     
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    LeDouche, Paul George and Kawhi are all going to become Lakers, then our lengthy rivalry will become absolutely epic.
     
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    Can they manage to keep Kuzma and rid themselves of Lonzo? That would be epic GM'ing...
     
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    Maybe. They have three coveted pieces in that roster in Lonzo, Ingram and Kuzma. Josh Hart also has some trade value, albeit much less, obviously. And they've got a ton of cap space.

    So first thing they gotta do is figure out how to trade for Kawhi. If I'm the Spurs, there's no deal unless they include both Ingram and Kuzma. Those two are the keys of any deal.

    So George and Kawhi would be in LA. Then Lebron looks closer than ever. Maybe they can make the above deal so they get to keep Lonzo. And if they could only find a way to keep Julius Randle, they'd have a team ready to compete for the ring (they would with all those signings, anyway, but keeping Randle as well would be huge for them... don't think it's gonna happen, tho).


    I'd like to see the Lakers back as contenders. I kinda missed them the last few years.
     
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    In a bit of FB battle with my friend's (adult) son about KD, the Warriors, Ledouche to the Fakers, etc...

    I'm perplexed by haters thinking that KD leaving OKC was a "bitch" move... I mention Lebron to Miami and they say "its not the same thing"
    And then I say you are right. Lebron orchestrated that move with Bosh, a truly star player led move. KD was a free agent and simply decided to go to a team where he could win championships and improve his game in a positive unselfish environment. And got himself out of a toxic environment. They mention going to a 73-9 team that just beat them in the WCF. I offer, would he be less of a "bitch" if he went to Detroit or Orlando? OKC was clearly going no where. Where is he supposed to go that you approve of?
    In the end, I think the subtleties are too much for the average fan. You either like Bron and side with him, or you like KD and defend him. Its an emotional thing.

    I'm not liking Lebron to the Lakers because I do not want to give any annoying Faker fans a reason to feel good about anything right now. They need a least another decade of irrelevance.
    At the same time, they would have to give up a lot to get him and practically drain their bench of talent. Not to mention that Lebron would completely destroy their locker room with his ego, entourage, and brand. Luke Walton would be fired by All Star weekend. On the other side of the argument, it would be fun to kick their ass four times next season... even if they got PG and CP3..I think their bench would suck and the Dubs still control it...
     
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