Oakland Raiders Thread

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  1. bada

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    Madballers, looks like Raiders/Seahawks will play next year in London.... Roadtrip? :D
     
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    Do it! WRT meet up in London! :cool:
     
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    That would be awesome, but no way I could spend that much on our vacation budget on a trip without me wife.
     
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    Doug Martin is a Raider. Good luck with him, guys. Has a lot of talent, but you never know what Doug Martin are you going to get. Still, should be a pretty interesting signing, pending on the numbers, but I doubt he's going to make a lot of money.
     
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    Crabtree released, and Jordy Nelson is a Raider. Free agency moves that fast.
     
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    Very excited about Jordy! Not disappointed to see Crabtree gone...he pissed me off last season

    Doug Martin doesn't do much for me, but hopefully he helps the running game.
     
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    One thing that would worry me... Gruden is going for vets that have been playing at a high level for quite some time. That got him fired by the Bucs.

    Then again, he never had a QB like Carr back then. I'm just saying it's the same MO.
     
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    I hear what you are saying. I would also mention that the Bucs have not made the playoffs since they fired Gruden, so maybe they should have kept him?
     
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    Definitely... :D

    But he probably shouldn't have gone for so many vets. That's what led to several 9-7 seasons that included a couple of trips to the playoffs as wildcards, but the team never was a contender since they won the SB. Those guys were good, but declining. Problem is, the youth movement we took after firing him was even worse, drafting the wrong players time after time...

    Don't get me wrong, I like Gruden and I think he's got a better chance in Oakland than he had with those Bucs teams. The Bucs defense was far better, but aging, and he never had a QB like Carr. The Raiders should be a contender once again.

    And I really like Rashaan Melvin's signing. He can be a good #2 CB opposite Conley.

    I probably would have kept Crabtree, tho... I've got the feeling they're going to miss him a lot.
     
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    Btw, Clinton McDonald is visiting the Raiders. Great teammate and good pass rusher from the inside, not great vs the run, tho, and that's why the Bucs wen twith Beau Allen (who has more or less the opposite skillset).

    Also, the Raiders have signed Andrew DePaola, former Bucs long snapper. And Rashaan Melvin also is a former Buc.

    Someone, please, tell Gruden he can sign non-former Bucs as well. It's alright if they haven't played for Tampa. In fact, it might not be a bad idea at all...
     
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    Yesterday I forgot one of the Raiders signings. Tahir Whitehead is a Raider, 3 years, $6 million. And it's a deal I really like, a bit of a bargain as well. Whitehead is really good in run support. Not great at coverage, but he's certainly an improvement for the Raiders, as their LB corps were... pedestrian, to say the least.
     
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    Despite jabs from Bada, and TMC, I am very happy with the Raiders moves so far. I love all the trades, and while I want to see a LB and CB taken in the 4th and 5th rounds tomorrow. Nothing wrong with picking guy's in the trenches. 2 OT's and 2 DT's is a good start for now and the future. Trading for Bryant in my mind, is a fantastic move. Having 3 very good WR's will stretch the D and open up all kinds of holes for the running game and TE's.
     
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    What jabs? I just said that Kolton Miller is a bit of a project and might not be ready to be a starter yet, but he's got a lot of talent and a high ceiling.

    I also really like PJ Hall, who should help right away, and Arden Key has a lot of talent, although there are other issues with him. Brandon Parker is, at least, good for depth. And Martavys for a third is about right.

    So not shocking, franchise-defining moves, but did alright with what they had, improving their team. Probably need to add a LB and some secondary help, but so far, so good.
     
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    Great pick with Mo Hurst in the fifth. First round talent, hope his heart condition is not serious enough and lets him continue his career. In that case, it's a huge value pick.

    Also like Nick Nelson, solid choice in the 4th. Should compete for playing time.
     
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    Sorry Madballers, I just had to live it first hand for so many years. Cable is the worst evaluator ever... and then cant coach the guys worth shit. He picks the same type of guys and they never pan out... they are never even serviceable. During Cable's 6 years in Seattle, NO TEAM in the league spent most 1st through 3rd round picks on offensive lineman and after all that, they have the worst offensive line in the league by far. Every single one of them "were guys Tom had to have".
     

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