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  1. Sauce

    Sauce D1 Player

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    I think this deserves a thread of its own.


    I remember trying to argue a year ago that Kevin Durant was better than LeBron James....wow. A lot of that stemmed from my dislike of the Heat (especially Battier and now Birdman) but it's comical to look back on it now.

    Have to give credit to LeBron. He's definitely the quintessential "modern athlete". Half of the people, if not more, watch the games rooting for him to fail. Maybe that says something about our society. Maybe not. But I do know that LeBron has put up with more shit than anyone over the past 3 years and he has really grown up. The speech he gave at the trophy ceremony about just being a kid from Akron made me really step back and look at him, and I really do think that he still pictures himself as a big kid. Sometimes cocky, sometimes not serious enough, but he's a winner too.

    The CBA is set up now so that it makes dynasties extremely difficult to have. I don't know where the Heat go from here, but LeBron is only 28 still. He has an outside shot at catching Michael for the title of GOAT, and it will be awesome to watch.
     
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    Absolutely he deserves his own thread, and his final words last night say it all =

    Atta boy LeBron! fuck the irrational haters and people who HAVE to try and find fault with greatness, it happens to all the great ones, especially when the media shoves you down everyones throat (which is not your fault).

    2nd player behind Russell and MJ to win back to back finals MVP's, ties the finals game 7 record for points............truly one of the greatest seasons ANY of us, from ANY generation, will ever see played.
     
  3. Quazza

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    best player in the world

    has been for years
     
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    xbay NBA 1st Team All Pro Staff Member

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    He's received too much shit from naysayers for too long. As soon as he stepped on the court, people doubted him. His Cleveland days were supreme, but his incompetent owner failed to surround him with a decent supporting cast to rally with him.

    Now he's done it. Twice. With help from an ailing Wade, an unselfish Bosh, a handful of three point marksmen, and a savvy, young head coach and his staff. Which, btw, I will never take away from the job Spoelstra has done. Not just anyone can coach LeBron and his cast. Like Jordan and Jackson, it takes a special coach to work with a special player.

    Bron is and has been one of the GOAT.
     
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    I heard that interview that Bigs quotes above. Just having that kind of humility about who he is given what he has done, speaks volumes about his character. He caught a lot of shit when he left Cleveland, some of it deserved, but every time I heard him speak after that, he never sounded like the ego maniac the naysayers insisted he was... He works really hard and really appreciates what he has. Nothing wrong that.
    Greatest player in the game today.
     
  6. Rob

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    Wow, so he's heading back to Cleveland.. thats pretty interesting considering how the fans disowned him after he left. Man, the heat are going to be pretty bad lol.
     
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    Happy he's doing it, and I wonder if this is going to spur a #stayhome movement in the NBA like college recruiters always preach. Of course, its impossible to choose but maybe FA's will lean towards hometown/state teams. (Lillard, Pierce!)

    Cleveland has four #1 overall picks on their roster. Also have two #4 overall picks lol. I expect them to finish easily top 4, probably at the #3 seed in the East. People may say that outside of Kyrie and Lebron, there's no proven talent, but East is already razor thin, and I didn't think of the Heat's roster as particularly great talent either. This will be the first time LeBron has a good point guard on his team, a new fiery head coach will help him lead the young guns, and let's not forget that Andrew Wiggins is going to suit up as well.
     
  8. xbay

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    "Who am I to hold a grudge?"

    This decision shows it is bigger than basketball. And if he wins a title, this would make his legacy launch into a universe further than we know of.

    Glad I didn't burn my Cavs jersey back in 2010. :lol:
     
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    Wow...great day for Cavs fans. And Chums hatred for LBJ just went down a couple of notches.

    If Lebron pulls off a championship in Cleveland, oh what a story that would be.
     
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    Lol I had to post this. I lurk on this hip hop (mostly hip hop) site, not sure if anybody else here is on there. But this article caused a bit of a stir on social media, pretty hilarious.

    Here is the link http://www.thecoli.com/threads/thats-ho ... ms.230331/

    The guy who wrote it is a really good writer, who had some threads about his experiences in his life. Some really good reads in there.
     
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    Mo's still spiteful. Unfortunate, but not surprising. I disagree with his sentiments, though. I do feel LeBron's matured through the years and is a different man versus the one that left Cleveland. He didn't leave Bosh and Wade to dry. Wade hung out with him all day in Vegas likely knowing Bron was leaving. He told Bosh to take Houston's offer. 2010 LeBron is different than 2014 LeBron. And that analogy goes for pretty much every human being. We aren't who we were 4-3-2, even 1 year ago.

    Anyone read LeBron's letter? Gave me chills.

     
  12. Rob

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    The article i posted is a fake lol. But a lot of media were running with it. Some nice quotables in there, especially the Thundercat stuff.
     
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    I can't seem to agree with LeBron on anything... :lol:

    I liked him much more when he was going after the rings in Miami. I just don't like retreads, I guess.


    It's going to be interesting, tho, because the Cavs need to make some moves and add some more impact players. Irving is good, Thompson and Varejao can be useful, if healthy, Wiggins is a great piece that can learn from the bench for a year or two and play a role as a defensive specialist (and his athleticism with LeBron running point is going to be awesome), but I don't think Waiters is a good fit for that roster. And Bennett plain sucks. LeBron alone makes them a contender in the East... but they need help. And I guess their offseason moves start now...
     
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    Lebron's letter was amazing! Thanks for it posting xbay. If the Cavs can pull off a Kevin Love trade, they will be the favorites in the East.
     
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    I really like this move. Good feel to it. Biggest name in the game. Returns home to a small market team. Apparently his wife was really pushing for it too

    How's being a Cavs fan though. 3 outta 4 #1 picks, and now Lebron.


    Gilbert must have fucked a leprechaun
     
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    Two years, $42.1M with an opt out clause after year one.

    Interesting.
     
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    From what I hear, this is just a formality...Bron is leaving space for other moves and will stay with the Cavs the rest of his career.
     
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    I can see that and it makes more sense. He'd make his $21.05M this season and potentially next. If he opts out, he can sign for less the following seasons. He's set the team up for success. Gilbert's front office better not screw up this time. However, their regime this time around is much more respectable and intriguing. I like Griffin/Blatt more than Ferry/Brown, even though Blatt is unproven by NBA standards. But Griffin is a bright mind. He could make things happen for that franchise as GM.
     
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    Biggest disappointment of the offseason: the randomness of free agency.

    Morey has done a masterful job building the Rockets and turning them into a contender. He also managed to create space for another top player by shedding salaries while not hurting his lineup. What does he end up with? An overpaid, average-when-not-in-a-contract-year Trevor Ariza.

    The Cavs have been the laughingstock of the league since LeBron left, with only Kyrie as a remarkable player (who, while great, still hasn't made the leap to superstar). And they end up with LeBron.

    Amazing. And not in a good way.
     
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    He took a chance going after Bosh by dumping Asik & Lin. And now he's let Parsons walk after losing out on Bosh. He sacrificed a season by attempting to go all in, failing, yet still creating cap space for the future.

    It's just something you can't control. Kudos to Morey for trying. I can always appreciate a GM who tries to be innovative, especially when you're hovering on the borderline of being THE squad in a tough conference.
     

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