How About an NFC South thread?

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    Tyler Jonhson is our 5th rounder. Good hands, great route-runner. Lacks speed and has trouble getting open, but that's why he's a fifth-round pick. I think he can develop into a useful slot receiver.
     
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    Khalil Davis in the 6th. DT, which was a position of need as well. Has plenty of upside after a good combine. Undersized, but quick and plays hard. Not sure he's ready to even make the team, but it's not a bad pick this late.
     
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    So we ended the draft with two choices in the 7th round. Chapelle Russell, from Temple, a guy that wasn't even expected to be drafted (tough kid, which matters a lot when you're a LB, but undersized and with serious durability issues and just average instincts... probably a practice squad guy, at least his first year) and Raymond Calais (a RB that's destined to be a special teams guy. All I've read is that he's got speed and great burst, but lacks vision and elusiveness. Kid can fly in open space, and that's what got him drafted. Maybe he can develop into a kick return specialist?).

    I would have passed on Russell, I think there were better options out there, but hey, it's the 7th round. I like using a pick on a speed demon like Calais, tho. It's a very small risk for a guy that has a skill you can't teach.

    Also, we've signed as UFA San Diego's QB Reid Sinnett and a bunch of other guys. Other than Sinnett, the biggest name (and I guy I think has a chance to stick around) is WR Josh Pearson, a big target guy that I think should have been drafted around the 6th round after a productive Jacksonville St. tenure and a good combine. Route running is not great, and that's why he was undrafted. But he's got plenty of upside.

    Oh, well... overall, I'd say this draft was an A-. Pretty happy with the Bucs draft. We'll see how they do, but the team had a plan, drafted for need and took the best guys on their board (you'd think that's what most teams do, but when you look at some picks, that's not always the case). I think we got two starters from this draft, two more guys that should get playing time and some upside guys with late picks. It's a good draft.

    Can't wait for football to come back. Whenever that happens...
     
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    Eh... Seems like Jameis is going to sign with the Saints. Why the f*ck every meaningful player that gets released by an NFC South team goes to sign with another NFC South team? It's creepy!

    Good for Jameis, tho. But I don't think it's a great move, unless he doesn't have more options. He's going to be a great locker-room presence, but won't get a chance to play any meaningful minutes unless Brees gets injured. And let's remember Taysom Hill has been re-signed, too, and is above him in the depth chart.
     
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    Peter King has a great column today in which he gets in detail about how the Bucs played the draft. It's interesting to see how things fell in our favor this year. Litch wanted a tackle so bad that he offered our 3rd and 4th rounders (along with the #14 overall pick) to Jacksonville for their #9. Jacksonville rejected the deal in order to draft CJ Henderson, and we still got our guy at #13 while only having to surrender the 4th rounder.

    We also got close to a deal with the Jets, although I've got no idea which picks were in the deal. You have to believe it was a similar deal to the one Jacksonville rejected, certainly more than the one we finally agreed to with the Niners. The Jets rejected the deal because Cleveland took Wills and they wanted Becton badly. We also tried to move up to the Raiders pick, but couldn't agree on compensation. We offered our first, third, fifth and sixth for the Raiders first and third-round picks. I have no clue why the Raiders rejected that deal. I guess they thought the Niners might have drafted Ruggs. I can't find another rational explanation.

    I don't know what Litch would have done if Jacksonville had accepted, because then he would have had his tackle of choice between Wirfs, Wills and Becton. But I'm perfectly happy with Wirfs at #13.

    In any case, we got incredibly lucky this time. It wasn't only the first round, I just can't believe Tyler Jonhson was available in the fifth, or Winfield in the second, for that matter. But Johnson in the fifth is crazy. I think he should have gone AT LEAST one full round before we took him.
     
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    Bucs pick up 5th year option on O.J. Howard, despite all the rumors about the team wanting to trade him or even cut him. It's a good move, as Howard is the more complete TE in our roster (pending on Gronk's shape, that is). If someone has to move, that's Brate (whom I love as a red-zone target, but he's more limited than our other TEs and makes a lot more than Howard).

    Also, I really like our schedule. Lots of home games to end the season, an easy stretch to end the season (you never know with Atlanta, but two games vs the Falcons and another vs Detroit is not bad) and lots of interesting games (Green Bay and KC come to the RayJay, and I can't wait to play at the new Raiders home). It's not an easy schedule, but I've seen worse...
     
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    Saints cut G Larry Warford for cap relief. A great guy and a pro bowl guard just hit the market. Hope (in fact, I'm pretty sure) it won't take him long to find a place to play.

    I think he'd be perfect for us, as the Bucs most glaring hole in the o-line is at RG, where Alex Cappa is... not strong enough, but he's going to cost a lot more than we can afford at this point.
     
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    As a Bucs fan, it's kinda fun (not really, it's just a figure of speech) how Brees keeps the rhetoric about how kneeling is disrespecting the American flag. And I'm saying that because it's going to bring problems into the Saints locker-room.

    I just can't believe he still thinks like that when the country is going through the current situation.
     
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    It’s pretty amazing how tone deaf his response was. Vic Fangio made a similar mistake but he had an open discussion after and apologized. Brees’ perception hasn’t changed since he last spoke out on it.

    And now there are a bunch of pass rushers that cannot wait to play them.
     
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    Not the best thing to say when Malcolm Jenkins is in your same locker-room...

    I really think Fangio made an honest mistake, but just because he wasn't clear enough on the scope of his remarks. Obviously there's no racism inside a locker-room in the NFL. But the NFL doesn't stop there, and hirings are a different story, for example. He just wasn't clear enough in the way he conveyed his point.

    Brees' point is completely different, tho.
     
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    Brees really shit the bed on this one. So many players will kneel during the anthem in the upcoming season. I am not sure how the NFL will deal with it. Since they basically banned the practice a couple of years ago...they are going to have to change.
     
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    They should kneel. I'm totally against riots, because those legitimate the use of violence by the other side, but peaceful protests should happen, time and time again. And everybody should keep all this in mind when the time for voting comes.
     
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    Kap tried to tell them years ago when it was only a him and a handful of others. I look forward to the more who join this season and the NFL accepting it.
     
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    I was able to see a little of the George Floyd memorial, and what stuck most out to me, was Al Sharpton's powerful speech.

    "It is time for America to get their knee off our throats"

    Hell yeah, C'mon America, it is time to do the right thing!
     
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    And the new Bucs finally come to camp!!!

    One important source of concern was left tackle Donovan Smith, who earlier this month said it wasn't worth playing under the current pandemic climate. But it seems he's coming and will report to camp as always. It'd be a huge problem to lose him, because we don't have any depth there.

    In other bad news (although not unexpected), LB Kendall Beckwith has been released. What a pity to see such a promising career end this way, because it seems he's done for good. That freak car accident after his rookie season killed his career. Beckwith has been on the reserve list for the last two years, but hasn't been able to get healthy enough to play football again. Awful. Also, Justin Evans, AS ALWAYS, is on the PUP list.

    Some voices say that the Bucs were just doing these two guys a solid by keeping them around til they're more recovered from their injuries, knowing playing football was a very long shot for both. Don't know if that's true or not.

    Cam Brate has reported to camp, despite having been infected. He's, apparently, fully recovered. What's interesting is that he's one of the regulars for Brady's workouts in Tampa, but the only one infected. Rookie Ke'Shawn Vaughn also has tested positive (while he wasn't included in those workouts).

    And, finally, Tom Brady is in the building!!!!!!
     
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    And we've added some help to the running game, with LeSean McCoy signing with the Bucs. Don't know how much, if anything, he has left in the tank, but at least he's going to push RoJo and Vaughn, once he's ready to go back. He also can help in the passing game. Our RBs were the worst part of the offense, or, at least, the area in which we had the least confidence. I totally expected the team to sign a vet. We'll see what McCoy can do.

    Let's go!!!
     

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