How About an NFC South thread?

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  1. TMC

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    Glad for the Bucs fans, tho. The few of us still out there deserve every single win out of piety for this sorry franchise.
     
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    This thread is a perfect study on what being a "fan" means. Such a roller coaster. Love your passion TMC.
     
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    What's weird is that only football brings that out of me. Not sure it's the physical nature of the game, or the few games of each season, or how fast things change in the NFL (apparently everybody has a chance to be good any given season, except for the Browns and Bucs), or defending Jameis just because we never had a franchise QB (Brad Johnson and Vinnie Testaverde remain the best in Bucs history! Go figure!) just to see him botch games time and time again in the worst possible way, but it gets me riled up like no other sport.
     
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    It is interesting with QB's... we see it time and time again that turnover prone QB's in college,just can't seem to fix that. Accuracy and INT's seem to always remain and can't be fixed. Jameis has an amazing arm and can make some spectacular throws, but as we saw in college, he just throws way too many picks. Just can't to that in the NFL.
     
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    Not only that. He's got no football IQ. Doesn't have a clue when (or where) he can't take a sack. If you're in field goal range in overtime, you get rid of the ball, period. You don't keep it for 8 seconds looking for an open receiver that was never there to end up taking a sack.

    It wasn't only yesterday (happened twice in the final drives of the game), it happens a lot with him. Accuracy issues and lack of instincts aren't a terrific combination for a QB.

    Add to that that we've got a hole the size of Florida at our RG position and that's a recipe for disaster...
     
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    I was gonna say the same thing about TMC's posts Bada haha.. love the rollercoaster ride. I don't verbalize it on here, but the Niners are a roller coaster, but one of those ones that just have a huge dip and they just keep going down and down and down haha.
     
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    Kwon Alexander is done for the season, which is a huge problem. He was playing great last sunday til his injury, his best game of the season by far, and now we have a huge hole at MLB as well. He's going to be replaced by Adarious Taylor, who is a fine backup, but there's a huge gap in talent between both.

    His other replacement, rookie Jack Cichy, also tore his ACL in the same game and is also done for the season...

    Kendall Beckwith, a surprising rookie last year who played really well, is supposed to come back soon after missing the whole season so far due to a freak car accident in the offseason.

    All things considered, Lavonte David is in top form and having a GREAT season, and Taylor and Beckwith (once he's ready) will have to play a ton of snaps from now on. And, after them, there's no depth at all. We gotta trade for a LB or sign somebody, urgently.

    It's also really bad news for Kwon because he was heading into free agency and was negotiating a new deal. Kwon is a very physical MLB that has improved his tackling but still has issues in coverage, and that's why he wasn't signed yet. Guess his options are greatly reduced now, a pity for him.
     
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    Jameis. Has. To. Go.

    Not surprisingly, DeSean Jackson, who had a great start of the season with Fitzpatrick at QB, has requested a trade. Can't blame him, because he's the exact same player, except Jameis never looks at him. Last week had his first reception during the overtime!!!

    And it's a bit weird to take a WR position over the QB, but Jameis is ruining everybody's career except for Adam Humphries, a guy that, for some reason, usually becomes the focus of Jameis throws over Mike Evans, Jackson or Godwin.

    And, of course, Jameis has two TERRIBLE interceptions in the first quarter. Kill me now.

    I won't ever root for the Bucs again if Jameis is signed to an extension. I'll become a Saints fan from that point on. And that's a promise.
     
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    Fitz is in and doing great. He's already connected with Mike Evans for a TD and the Bucs are in the game again, although it might be too late...

    Hope this means Jameis is done in Tampa. Koetter can't possibly play him again, right? Right?
     
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    Well, Fitz played amazing and even managed to tie the game, only to lose it on a last second field goal. Entered the game in an impossible situation and couldn't have played better.

    It's a bittersweet defeat. I'm happier today than after our win last week vs the Browns. A pity, because we probably would be 5-2 if not for Jameis. The Falcons game was a very winnable one and we probably would have won it with Fitz. And Jameis gave this one away.

    Our season is not over yet, but it'll be if Jameis plays again. Or if the defense doesn't step up. But the schedule gets easier and we'll have a chance to compete and be back in the playoff hunt. Next game is at Carolina, but we've got three winnable games after that one, vs Washington, at NY (Giants) and vs San Francisco, followed by another home game vs the Panthers. If we manage to win 4 of those next five, the season will be far from over. Not easy, tho, but with no Jameis, there's a chance.
     
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    Interesting stat to put things in perspective: Jameis has played 48 NFL games. He's been intercepted 50 times and has 21 fumbles. That's 71 turnovers in 48 games. That's everything you need to know about Jameis.
     
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    Wow, 71 turnovers in 48 games. I knew it was bad, but that is ATROCIOUS. I agree TMC, time to move on. They can cut him free and clear in the offseason and save 21m on cap space right? Dont think he would have any dead money.
     
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    They picked up his option for next year, but it's only guaranteed in case of injury. Any other case, they can cut him after this season with no cap hit.

    And, frankly, I don't see how they can bring him back at this point. Only plan that makes sense is to re-sign Fitz for a year or two, draft a young kid to develop and start anew.
     
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    OK, well then EVEN more reason to put Winston on the bench. He plays and gets hurt, they could get stuck with his 21m next year.
     
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    Not sure Litch and Koetter will be smart enough to realize that...
     
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    So Koetter has named Fitz the starter this week at Carolina. Which seems like the logical move, except it isn't... Seems like he's not convinced, but was forced because he would have lost the locker room if he went with Jameis.

    Also, when you consider that the team is performing better this season since Todd Monken took over playcalling duties on offense (as long as Jameis is not playing, and not considering the horrendous game at Chicago) and that the defense, still lacking talent in the secondary and with several starters injured, is doing much, much better since Duffner took over for the recently fired Mike Smith, Koetter's future in Tampa doesn't look good. And let's remember that the Glazers almost fired him to sign Gruden last year, and it would have happened if not for the crazy deal the Raiders offered to Gruden.

    And that's exactly what should happen. Koetter was almost chosen by Jameis as his head coach, and we all know how things usually go when players get involved in the decision-making of a franchise...

    Just wonder what's going to happen with Litch. He's been very hit-and-miss. Had some very good drafts, has added a ton of talent to this team, but he's missed big on several picks (Aguayo, Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Noah Spence... I'd even add Vernon Hargreaves III to that list of busts, although he's played well inside). Litch also signed an extension this past summer...

    I'm guessing, unless something crazy like the Bucs making the playoffs happens (still far from out, but we've got to win 4 or the next 5 to have a real chance... doable, but not easy), Koetter is out. And I think the Glazers, who love to fire people, will give one last chance to Litch. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
     
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    Fitz ain't playing bad, but who am I kidding? 35 points allowed in the first half. This looks more like a high school defense. Season's over. About time the Bucs start tanking, draft a QB and use the rest of the draft and free agency on the defensive side, because we won't be able to win another game with this kind of defense.

    The only positive is that we're so fucking bad that Koetter is surely gone, and hopefully our next coach will be a defensive one.
     
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    Well, at least Fitz is having another very good game. That's going to keep Jameis in the bench for sure. And that's a good thing, because if Fitz struggles, I'm sure Koetter will go back to Jameis. The only objective of this season is to keep him glued to the bench so we can cut his ass before next year...

    Good times!! :rolleyes:
     
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    Dez Bryant signs with the Saints. And, as absurd as it may seem to add a diva WR at this point of the season for a team that's playing so well, I love the signing...

    First, the Saints needed help at WR. Ginn went to IR, Cameron Meredith, whom I think would be a great #2 or #3, hasn't panned out and that lives Michael Thomas, arguably one of the top 3 WRs in the league and the rookie Tre'Quan Smith (playing really well) as their only viable WRs. Bryant and Smith should benefit a lot from all the attention Thomas will get.

    I think it's a great signing that makes the Saints offense even better. And if Bryant becomes a problem, they'll just get rid of him. Great move, Saints!
     
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    Damn, there goes the Bryant signing... Dez seems to have a torn achilles after his second practice, so his season is over. Saints will be in the market for a WR again.
     

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