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  1. Bigstrads

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    Hello all,

    So I realised yesterday that registration is open for for Fantasy Football 2011!!! :rock: :partydance:

    I signed up to a live draft yesterday and it was fun as hell..........its a 10 team league, standard scoring but with with a WR/RB flex position instead of the WR/TE that we have.

    Unfortunately, I didnt realise this until the 3rd to last pick, so was kind of loading up on WR's in the early rounds.

    Also, man..............I went a bit crazy with the youngsters and rookies!

    Just read a lot of good things about the ones I was on the look out for both in terms of player and position on the team there are on, especially Roy Helu in Shanahans offence and no real other RB to contend with.

    Anyway, here is my draft, in the order I took them...........what you guys think?.

    Ohh, and I had the 3rd pick.............again!

    Beast Mode's Nuts (Funny, cuz the league is called "AFC League" with a couple of Saints fans)

    1 - RB - Chris Johnson
    2 - QB - Peyton Manning
    3 - WR - DeSean Jackson
    4 - WR - Mike Williams (TB)
    5 - WR - Dez Bryant
    6 - TE - Jimmy Graham
    7 - RB - Mikel LeShoure
    8 - DEF - Philly.
    9 - RB - Beast Mode!!!!!! (Just had too).
    10 - WR - Mario Manningham.
    11 - RB - Roy Helu
    12 - WR - Braylon Edwards
    13 - QB - Sam Bradford
    14 - K - David Akers
    15 - WR - Lance Moore.
     
  2. TMC

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    Well, considering there's no training camp or OTAs this year... I'd stay the hell away from any rookies. At least until further notice.

    The team looks pretty strong, but I think you could have done a lot better with your RBs. A LOT. Other than that, it's quite good.
     
  3. Bigstrads

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    LOL, sh*t............so I go with 2 rookies and 3 second year players! :roll:

    Damn, see thats the stuff I need to start paying more attention too and realising.............just didnt think about it, makes sense though of course now youve said it. :bang

    Anywho, as soon as I got Johnson, I wanted to focus on getting WR's sorted............and besides, one thing I learned last year is that there is always 2-3 stand out RB's that just come out of no-where because of injuries or other stuff (Hillis, The Law Firm, Chris Ivory when he got his chance) so am biding my time with that.

    Was really pleased to get Peyton back again (not trading him this time, unless I get another deal like the Chum did me..........not likely though. :D ) and also to get DeSean again. Going in, I really wanted Williams (as I did last year) and also Jimmy Graham and Helu..........so basically got exactly what I wanted out of the draft

    Now if only I could Megatron back again somehow............. :cry:

    Ohh and cheers for your thoughts TMC. :thumbsup:
     
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    Yeah, not bad Bigs. Definately a bit heavy on young, unproven players, especially given the labor situation.

    Your RB's are a little weak however I think Lynch is a good pick where you got him. Seahawks invested heavily in the offensive line and brought in ex Raider Head Coach Tom Cable as their offensive line coach and run game coordinator. Caroll really wants a power running game and they are focusing and dedicating towards that. I dont think Lynch is going to be a 1600 yard rusher or anything but I think he will put up good numbers and I think a 10+ TD season is not out of the question.

    You are solid at WR and QB. You took a defense much higher than I personally recommend but that is more a personal preference. Typically I dont think it is wise to take ANY defense before the 10th round.
     
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    Thanks bro! :thumbsup:

    Yeah, they were all laughing at me in the draft for taking Beast Mode.............all "He isnt Beast Mode anymore!" but I laid down some knowledge about Big Cable being on board and the improved O line! I represented well I think. ;)

    As for the D.............man, I wasnt expected to take it that early but a guy 3 picks ahead of me took the Steelers D in that round, then the next guy took the Jets, then the next guy took Chicago..............so I knew I had to get in there quick if I wanted a half way decent one, and after that, literally EVERYONE else took their D in that round! was like panic picks cuz everyone else was. :lol:

    As the RB's as a whole, obviously Johnson is RB1.............but then RB2 Im just gonna play the matchups and trends I think. Not something I wanted to do as I usually get bit in the ass when I try and be clever but probably dont have much choice unless I get this years Hillis off the wire in week 1.

    Problem is though that I didnt realise the flex was a RB option.............so I could had possibly another big RB instead of the WR's, who lets face it, a star RB is always going to be more reliable than a star WR because of the guaranteed touches.

    We shall see but also, I wanted Helu and LeShoure for a reason...............so. :xross:
     
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    RB will definitely give you problems in close match ups against the league's best teams. It gave me a ton of problems last year in a league I was in. But no need to press buttons and panic. Just pay attention to the waiver wire. Every year there is a gem for every position.
     
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    Just did another live draft.............and stayed away from the rookies this time. ;)

    Its an 8 team league, had the 5th pick, standard scoring with the flex being WR/RB/TE eligible.

    What you guys think? man, some of the team are crazy good............but I focussed on RB's more with this one.

    Suppose I took a few gambles like Greene and Graham but Ive always got to have some kind of gambles.

    1. (5) Jamaal Charles
    2. (12) Andre Johnson
    3. (21) Hakeem Nicks
    4. (28) Steven Jackson
    5. (37) Vincent Jackson
    6. (44) Ben Roethlisberger
    7. (53) Shonn Greene
    8. (60) Jimmy Graham
    9. (69) Philadelphia
    10. (76) BenJarvus Green-Ellis
    11. (85) Santonio Holmes
    12. (92) Josh Brown
    13. (101) Josh Freeman
    14. (108) Brandon Pettigrew
     
  9. TMC

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    You've been drafting with retards or what?. Hakeem Nicks in the third?. Freeman in the 13th?

    Gosh, that team is loaded... a lot more than it should.
     
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    LOL, yeah, it was a pretty fun one.............one guy took Brees with his first rounder! (number 3). :shock:

    With having to settle for Big Ben, I was specifically targeting Freeman.............and they just kept skipping and skipping him............so I nabbed him right at the death! :rock:

    Couple of the teams are beastly, take a look at a few that I think are plain nasty =

    1. (1) Adrian Peterson
    2. (16) Tom Brady
    3. (17) Larry Fitzgerald
    4. (32) DeSean Jackson
    5. (33) Antonio Gates
    6. (48) LeGarrette Blount
    7. (49) Ahmad Bradshaw
    8. (64) New York
    9. (65) Stephen Gostkowski
    10. (80) Jahvid Best
    11. (81) Steve Smith (Car)
    12. (96) Sam Bradford
    13. (97) Austin Collie
    14. (112) Ryan Grant

    1. (4) Chris Johnson
    2. (13) Rashard Mendenhall
    3. (20) Darren McFadden
    4. (29) Philip Rivers
    5. (36) Mike Williams
    One hell of a top 5 picks. :shock:
    6. (45) Brandon Marshall
    7. (52) Vernon Davis
    8. (61) Chicago
    9. (68) Mason Crosby
    10. (77) Matt Ryan
    11. (84) Kenny Britt
    12. (93) Sidney Rice
    13. (100) Felix Jones
    14. (109) Kellen Winslow

    1. (7) Maurice Jones-Drew
    2. (10) Ray Rice
    3. (23) Frank Gore
    4. (26) Peyton Manning
    5. (39) Jermichael Finley
    6. (42) Dez Bryant
    7. (55) Marques Colston
    8. (58) Green Bay
    9. (71) Neil Rackers
    10. (74) Jonathan Stewart
    11. (87) Anquan Boldin
    12. (90) Owen Daniels
    13. (103) Knowshon Moreno
    14. (106) Jay Cutler
     
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    8 team league drafts are always hard to evaluate because teams are so deep.

    I would say Freeman went around where he should. Especially in an 8 team league. Certainly Freeman is not a starting caliber QB in an 8 team league. Without doing too much research, I would say he should be ranking anywhere from 10-14. So you are looking at about the 3rd-7th backup QB being selected in this draft which makes that round about right.
     
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    I like that first team. Probably a bit better than yours, due to Brady, but very close.

    The second team wasted a pick going for a third top RB (supposing you only play two, that is... if there's a flex position that allows a RB, it's a whole different story) and, thus, lacks a bit at WR. The third team is more of the same... but worse.



    And, Bada... do you believe Big Ben should go higher than Freeman? Josh gets no respect at all...


    And, for once, I'm not kidding. I've got Josh in my top ten, both in real football (3,400 yards, 25 TDs and just 6 INTs is a heck of a season, for any QB) and fantasy (finished 7th in points among QBs, 5th in points per snap).

    And I was about to post some more facts... but let's people believe whatever they want. I'm certainly targeting him in any draft that I'm taking part this year.
     
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    I was not saying anything about Big Ben.... but without thinking about it too much... I think they are close in terms of fantasy qb's. I think Freeman is a better REAL life QB than Fantasy QB. Most of it is the system. It is just not wide open enough for him to be a fantasy starter but he is a quality fantasy backup.

    7th in fantasy scoring??? What the heck kind of point system is that? In a basic "Performance Scoring" league (4pts TD, 1pt per 10 yards Rushing, 1pt per 10 yards receieving) he finished 14th in QB's last year. Fantasy points per game he finshed 19th at 17.9 pts per game.

    9 of his 15 starts (I only pull stats through week 16 because that is the last week of fantasy seasons) he did not even pass for 200 yards. Only 4 times did he reach the 250yard mark and did not have one 300 yard passing game.

    Only once did he throw for 3+ TD's in a game and in 9 of 15 games he threw for 1 TD or less. Not a chance is he is a started in an 8 team league and it is really pushing it in a 10 team league.

    Based on past performance and stats, he just is not a starting fantasy QB... but he certainly COULD be IF they opened up the offense. So that is the part I am missing because I have not followed the Bucs offseason so I don't know what they are planning. If they have a new OC who is a passing, open up the offense type of guy, then he moves up the rankings into a fringe 10 team league starter but if it is the same system, then you can't feel too comfortable with Freeman as your starting QB.
     
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    Well, I've got my stats from here... (1 point per 25 yards passing and 4 points per TD) don't shoot the messenger. ;)
     
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    Well that scoring does help Freeman because he is not a big yardage guy and hurt the others but I can't image that 5 yard difference moves him from 14 to 7. But maybe that makes sense since it takes away a good 3-5 extra points per game from the top QB's. Definately makes it closer. but I don't see too many leagues that have the 1 for 25 model.

    In any case, I think there is no way you can put him in the top 8 of fantasy qb's above: Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Romo, and Schaub. Then you have the next two spots for a 10 team league which he is in the discussion for those two spots with the following guys: Matt Ryan, Big Ben, Eli, Flacco, Stafford, Cutler, Bradford... perhaps a couple others I am forgetting right now.
     
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    Welll, you know... Romo and Schaub are big risks because you can bet on one of them being injured for the season. But yeah, if they're healthy, that's the top 8.

    As for the others... I think it's a toss up between Ryan and Freeman. But I'd still take Freeman above any other. Take Eli as an example... he's gonna have a few big games of 300 yards and several TDs, followed by 5 INTs games. Can almost say the same above Cutler. Bradford... not yet. Not enough talent on that team (in the passing game, I mean), although the future is bright... Everybody else has issues, so I think Freeman is a very valid option in the top 10 after those guys you mentioned above. You can certainly make a case for him, starting by being consistent and not having too many off-games, something can that can't be said about the others.
     
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    I must say, I am thinking that Freeman is going to take a further step up this year.............hence why I wanted him so bad (but still managed to vastly under pay. :rock: )

    The way I see it............Freeman goes against the weak pass D's and Big Ben goes against the weak run D's............play the match ups.

    For instance, week 1, the Steelers play Baltimore in Baltimore............and the Bucs are at home to Detroit (much improved they will be though of course). So thats pretty obvious who my "starting" QB is gonna be that week huh.

    Also, TMC, you said about the guy who took a 3rd high level RB.............well, I did say in the original post that this leagues flex position was RB eligible, so thats why he did that and also why I thought those teams were pretty crazy.

    RB1 - Chris Johnson
    RB2 - Medenhall
    RB3 - McFadden
    WR1 - Williams (Bucs)
    QB - Rivers

    Wow..............heres hoping Shonn Greene becomes that feature back for the Jets (or LaDanian's body gives out) and Jimmy Graham carrys on being Brees's red zone target. :xross:
     
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    Well, I just finished a draft last night. It's a 12 team, 4 divisions league. QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/T, K, DEF, 6 BN's. Standard scoring rules familiar to all of us. I had the 4th pick in a snake draft and here's my results...

    QB: Kevin Kolb, Donovan McNabb
    WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings, Santonio Holmes, Austin Collie, Hines Ward
    RB: Ray Rice, LeSean McCoy, Mark Ingram, Joseph Addai
    TE: Jermichael Finley, Kellen Winslow Jr.
    K: Mason Crosby
    DEF: Tampa Bay Buccaneers
     
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    Pretty nice draft there Xbay.

    Rice was first (4th) huh?...........thats pretty good actually now that Maghee has gone. Lets break it down for ya (seeing as I always ask for and appreciate evaluations of my team).

    RB's

    Really like your RB's - Rice for the above reason, he is going to blow up this year me thinks.............people say McCoy is always going to be hampered by Vick but he is still going to be a solid RB2, and then a serious one when/if Vick goes down.............. Ingram could be the god damned starting RB for New Orleans Saints!!!...........yes, a pass first team but hey, when they go up big on people, someones got to be there to take the game home..............Addai is always going to be a decent one too, even though hes getting on.

    WR's

    Pretty nicely covered here.............Fitzgerald having Kolb now is obviously huge for him, especially given he was top 3 without a decent QB!...........Jennings, hmmm, I know he is what he is but I think hes gonna slow down a bit now and he didnt play well late in the season but still always going to be dangerous with Rodgers around..............Santonio is a great pick that late, especially Edwards on his way out and only Plaxico coming the other way, the Jets showing that he is their main man and he Sanchez had some awesome chemistry going already..............Collie, solid but unspectacular, cant go wrong as long as Manning can keep going..............Ward, hmmm, think he might be done, anyone nab Jordy Nelson or Ocho? cuz Id swap him for either of those right away! much more potential for big numbers in both of them over Ward.

    QB's

    Hmm, I know you obviously sacrificed the QB position to get real solid in other areas...........and getting Rice and Fitzgerald is huge............but I just dont know about Kolb, dont see him as a real difference maker and someone that can really change a game, not got the big arm Fitz is going to want..............McNabb............ :?

    Need to address this man, think you need to find a replacement for McNabb on the wire.............I recommend Tavaris. ;)

    TE's

    Nice, Finley is obviously huge..............but the injury bug may strike him again, so having a reliable guy like Winslow behind him is pretty good.

    K

    Crosby is obviously always going to be solid playing in that offense.

    DEF

    Hmmmm, think you need to maybe play the wire with these guys..............perhaps pick up whichever D is playing the worst offensive team each week.

    Cue TMC's wrath. :D
     
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    Nothing to say about our D. The secondary is among the best in the league, but the d-line is a major question mark, due to all the kids we've added. The main veteran in the d-line rotation is Roy Miller and he's a third year player. And our LB corps have some good playmakers, but lack consistency and experience.

    The Bucs D can be among the best in the league if everything goes alright, but can also be an average unit if we have injuries and other issues. Might be worth keeping if you're going to keep a backup D, but I'd be wary to have it as your main D... at least til they've proven themselves this year.


    As for the other picks... I like Kolb at QB. The Cards are going to throw and lot, and that can only help, particularly because you also have Fitz. Solid picks.

    The one I don't like is Ingram. And not because I don't like him... I think he can be a very good and productive back in this league... but the Saints backfield might be the most crowded in the league. Pierre Thomas is the starter, Ingram will be his backup and Chris Ivory is in the mix as well, and they've just signed Sproles to take over Bush's role. If there's a busiest backfield in the NFL, I don't know where...

    Might be a good one, but also can be a guy that may not see enough carries to make an impact right away. I would have taken him as my 4th RB, because if you have any injuries to the starters... you may not get good enough production from your backups.

    Other than that, I think you've done a good job drafting, XBay. Not outstanding, but pretty good.
     

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