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    Can someone please explain to me why Stephen Strasburg, who waited until the last day to sign with the Nats last year and was represented by Boras, is calling out Bryce Harper for not signing until the last minute--and who is represented by the same damn agent?

    Is there some behind-the-scenes stuff I don't know about? I figured it was Boras, in both cases, working until the very last day to gain as much leverage to make as much money as possible for the client? If I'm wrong I'd love to hear it, but if I'm not I really have no idea why Starsburg is bashing Harper for doing the exact same thing he did. :2cents
     
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    I heard that story yesterday AM and was thinking Fuck You Strasburg! How can he fault a guy for doing the dame exact damn thing that he did. Bryce didnt even have huge salary demands like the 50 million that Boras was seeking for Strasburg. Its pretty much a given that any high profile picks are going to go to the wire to sign their first deal. Its rare where you get a guy like Gordan Beckham that signs right away and plays in the minors and makes it to the show the season they were drafted.

    I really believe that Harper is going to be a stud and that 5 year 10mil deal will amount to peanuts when he starts swinging the bat. I cant wait to see him in the show.
     
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    There's some interesting takes on this on ESPN.com. Apparently, Harper has amazing talent but is also a bit showy. I'm not sure if he always wears the black face paint but his antics before taking his stance at the plate is reportedly a bit much. But, hell, the kid is 17 and has already graced the cover of SI. If he's cocky we all took a part in making him so.

    I don't understand the 5 years, $10 million contract. Is this a signing bonus, or will he be making more than the minimum when he finally enters the majors?
     
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    most of the $ is a signing bonus...I think it was around 6mil +, so when he comes up....its more of a 5 year deal for 3.5 mil or so.
     
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    I heard they're already converting him to the OF. I once hoped the Giants would do so with Posey, but he's such a stud behind the plate I can't imagine them doing so anytime soon. I thought Whiteside was decent, but Posey's arm is really an amazing weapon, especially on a team with stud pitchers who don't like holding on runners.
     
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    Hey Always-- were you the guy who loved young starting pitchers? I can't remember. Did you post last year about Kershaw challenging Timmy for the cy young and all that?
     
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    think one of the main reasons he is being moved to the OF is for quicker path to the majors. The Nats have a guy in their system named Derek Norris, a stud behind the plate, he was just behind Santana, Posey, Montero (Yankees) as far as catching prospects go and he should be ready next season. I think with the immaturity of Harper, my guess he will play in MLB as a 19 yr old, they wanted him in the OF rather than behind the plate. They also are not super stacked in the OF, their only really good prospect there is Bernadina who is in the majors right now.

    As far as Posey goes.....I didnt think he was going to have enough stick to be valuable at another position besides Catcher, I was wrong about that one. The kid is an absolute stud. I think he will probably be behind the plate for 6-8 years and during his mega contract will be moved to 1B or a corner OF spot.
     
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    Article up on ESPN today documenting how the Pirates makes $30 million a year being horrible. If there's a luxury tax that pays these organizations, there should be a floor as well that says if they don't spend, say $50 million, an organization doesn't get as much of the revenue sharing.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5484947
     
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    No wonder the ownership is so content on being bad. Wow.
     
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    Yup. And what sucks the most are these are organizations protected by monopolies. Some, like MLB, are by law. Others, like the NBA and the NFL, exist because they're already so big and powerful that new leagues can't compete.

    That's why the NFL is so great. It's more about systems now than simply buying the right players. The NBA and MLB could learn a lot from the NFL.
     
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    Strasburg needs Tommy John surgery. I'm sure you all have read it. A shame. He looked damn good out there.
     
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    Its Karma for talking crap about Harper. Its too bad that he is having TJ surgery at such a young age. He came up looking like Kerry Wood and is now ending his first big league season looking like Kerry Wood. I just hope he is able to realize his potential and not be that guy that could be THE GUY his whole career.
     
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    wow, thats crazy! he has to miss one year, though guys come back pretty strong from that surgery. Crazy how Tim Lincecum's dad mentioned that Strasburg would have elbow problems.
     
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    He has a crazy delivery on some of his pitches and that huge overhand curve is not natural. He must put tremendous strain on those ligaments. Usually older pitchers recover better from this surgery because they have learned how to pitch. Tim Hudson has been amazing since coming back from TJ surgery. I just hope STrasburg is able to pitch when he comes back because he is not going to have the amazing stuff he had before the injury.
     
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    Wow... what a day for Nationals fans. Hope the kid a speedy recovery since we won't see this kid pitch until 2012!
     
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    It always gets to the end of September and I'm ready for baseball to be done. Wtf? playoffs haven't begun yet?
    They should be finished and the World Series started by October 1st!!
    that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

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    Okay, someone explain to me how Jose Bautista is doing it. 54 HRs last season, 16 thus far this season (3 TODAY!). Never was relevant, at least from what I'm reading from earlier in his career.
     
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    He never really got a chance to play earlier in his career. He was in PITT and put up some decent power #s, when you look at his ABs, but never got an opportunity to be an every day player. He has a great swing and really stays back on the ball and can hit with power to all fields. Bautista is a monster and finally showing what he can do with an chance to play every day.
     
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