2019-2020 WC Seeding Predictions, as they stand Late July 2019.

Discussion in 'Know Your Enemy' started by Money, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. TMC

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    Season of changes is coming!

    - Billy Donovan out in OKC. I didn't expect that. It's by mutual agreement (as mutual as a guy leaving once his contract is over), which usually means he asked something to remain in OKC that the team wasn't willing, or able, to provide. In any case, it's going to be interesting who they choose to sign to lead such a young team (other than CP3). Donovan seems to be a candidate for other openings already (New Orleans, Philly, Indiana, Chicago...).

    - Miami beats the Bucks in 5. Totally unexpected, and the series should have been over in 4, in fact. Miami is a very good team, well-coached, with a good mix of young players and vets and really dangerous, wouldn't be surprised if they make the finals in this weird season. Milwaukee... other than Middleton, I'm not sure who's going to be back and who ain't. And that's going to matter a lot with Giannis becoming a free agent after next season. There's a chance he signs an extension this offseason, and I wouldn't be surprised if he does, but a second-round exit is far from what they expected. And no, he won't get traded if doesn't sign. Also, is Budenholzer safe? I think gets one more year at least, but his playoff record, not counting the first round, ain't exactly great.

    - Lakers are in control, and seems Houston won't have an easy time winning the series. PJ Tucker is a great role player, but they don't have an answer for Davis and Lebron. And they have nothing in their bench to help inside.
     
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    There’s chatter of Milwaukee going after CP3 should OKC make him available to trade. I can’t think of anyone else that could become available that shores up a lot of their issues because he is the ideal player you want to pair with Giannis and Middleton. He turns 36 next May, but his price will still be high and I’m not so sure what kind of package of players and picks it would take, but it’s going to be pretty hefty. Either way, if I’m Milwaukee, I push hard for it. Their roster is not built for the playoffs. They need more wing versatility and ball dominant guard to run the show. If they sort of stay pat and add a couple “okay” signings, Giannis is bolting for nothing.
     
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    That makes a lot of sense. And I don't think OKCs price is going to be too high, considering CP3's age and contract. Bledsoe, a young guy and one or two draft picks should get it done.
     
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    Paul's making $41 million next season. Bledsoe is only $16 million. So they're still about $25m away. I added their next two biggest contracts (minus Middleton) after Bledsoe and then threw in one of their young former 1st rounders.

    Eric Bledsoe 16m
    Brook Lopez 12m
    George Hill 9m
    DJ Wilson $4m or Donte DiVincenzo $3m
    Future picks

    for

    Chris Paul

    That works financially. Will that be enough? Depends on the picks, I suppose. My guess would be DiVincenzo as the young guy since I don't think they'd like to play Bledsoe next to SGA. And I imagine Sam Presti may be lukewarm on having to pay $38m to Lopez and $53m to Bledsoe over the next 3 years. But hey, that dude has like a bajillion first round picks for the next decade if he really wanted to get rid of those contracts.

    I hope they can work something out. I'd love to see Giannis in another uniform, but if this is one last shot at preserving the Milwaukee market, why not? We had our fun the last 5 years with KD/Steph/Klay/Dray. I'm enjoying the competitive balance for now.
     
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    Yeah, well, Bledsoe, picks and fillers to make it work, obviously. I think DiVicenzo would be the guy, yes.

    I think Giannis is going to stay in Milwaukee unless everything implodes. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that's going to force a trade. Not right now, at least. A few more years of not making the finals and everything might change. But I think we're still one extension away from that point.
     
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    True, we all know he wants to win, but he doesn't seem like someone who would jump to another team. At least, that's how his personality is reflected publicly. He's similar to Damian Lillard in that regard. But I guess the only way we'll find out is what uniform he'll be wearing in 2022. Which is unfortunate, because this is the kind of engagement fans these days love, but it also hurts the league.
     
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    I don't think it hurts the league. I think NBA owners have given too much power to players and should draw a line in the next CBA. I think a franchise tag would be adequate considering everything that has happened in the NBA in the last few years.

    Won't happen, I know. Just saying it should.
     
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    Incredible series between Boston and Toronto. Easily the best in the bubble so far. Boston up 2-0 with a chance to go 3-0. OG Anunoby 3. Series goes to 2-2. Now we're getting a Game 7.
     
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    Yep. And Boston will have nobody to blame but them if they lose these series. Kemba in particular, with an awful game 6. At the same time, Toronto has more than earned that game 7.
     
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    Kemba hasn’t had a particularly great series and his play in Games 5 & 6 have been poor. They need more from him. If they manage to advance, Gordon Hayward’s return will be a big lift. He takes responsibility off the rest in so many different areas. Still, he may not return until closer to the end of the series.

    It’s looking more and more like we’re getting both the Lakers and Clippers to end their series in 5. Both Houston and Denver look outmatched. But hey, we all knew this series was going to happen whether we wanted to admit it or not. Honestly have no clue who wins that series. I’m rooting for the eastern conference winner no matter what lol
     
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    Oh, yeah, I'm also rooting for Miami all the way... If Miami makes it to the finals.
     
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    Love the NBA playoff talk guys, keep it coming. I haven't watched that much of the tournament, but certainly will when we get to the final 4.
     
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    Yeah, the first round was the quickest in history, I think. And the second round seems to go the same route.

    But other than Miami beating Milwaukee in five, everything has gone more or less as expected. And LAL vs LAC and Miami vs Boston or Toronto (particularly if it's Boston) have the potential to be great series.
     
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    Lakers vs Clippers will be a great series. Just a pity it won’t be played in Staples Center in front of fans. Clippers home games wouldn’t be so much “home games.” Dwight & JaVale will be back in the rotation since Zubac (who’s taken a nice leap this year) will be out there. And Beverley staying healthy is key because it means less to no Reggie Jackson. I say Clippers in 7.
     
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    It's hard not to just assume LeBron is taking another team on his back to the Finals. It seems almost inevitable really.
    But I'm with you XBay, Clippers in 7... maybe even 6
     
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    Happy for the Celtics. Great young core there with Tatum, Smart and Brown. Happy for Kemba too.
    They got a big challenge coming up in Miami
     
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    The Lakers are a safe pick, I feel. LeBron. AD. They’re a nightmare in the paint. Like you said, it’s easy to pick them. That’s why I went the other way.

    Boston... I agree. They stood pat and trusted in the development of Brown, Tatum and Smart rather than trading them. Kemba affects the game even without scoring. Theis was great against Toronto. Their story reminds me of the Dubs to some extent. Miami is going tough. If that series doesn’t go 7, I’ll be surprised. Tough to choose, though. I’ll say Boston even though I have a lot of respect for Miami.
     
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    Just realized the Clippers/Nuggets Game 6 starts at 10AM PST on Sunday meaning it’s going up against the morning games of the NFL Week 1. Curious to see how the ratings do for them since the NFL will occupy CBS and FOX. And you’ll have to go to ESPN to view.

    Lakers/Rockets Game 4 held up pretty well to Texans/Chiefs on Thursday evening so we’ll see. Granted, that game started an hour and a half earlier than the football game.
     
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    I don't think it's going to do too well... Between everybody expecting LAC to win and the NFL finally being back (in its entirety, not just one game), I would be surprised if the ratings are high.
     
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    Yeah, was surprised but hey, what can you do? The NFL rules Sunday’s. Unfortunate, though... as most didn’t get the chance to see the Clippers drop the ball again. Kudos to the Nuggets for fighting. Huge opportunity for them to play spoiler to the much anticipated LA vs LA match up.
     
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