2019-2020 WC Seeding Predictions, as they stand Late July 2019.

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  1. Money

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    Ha was just thinking about Giannis being more willing to switch teams if they get knocked out in the second round.. and GSW is definitely on the list... or up for consideration...

    Speaking of 20/21, how is the NBA planning on scheduling the season? the finals won't be over until middle to end of October.
    So when does the next season begin and end?
     
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    Last I've read had the new season starting in December, very tentatively...

    Happy to see Miami winning. Dragic stepping up, Butler, their young kids... everything is peaking at the right time. It's going to be hard for Milwaukee to overcome a 0-2, but in these playoffs with no home court, anything can happen.

    Even Harden winning a series on a defensive play. Now I've seen everything... :p
     
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    Great question, Money.

    To keep it short and simple... 12/1 was always tentative. Both the league and players will be open to pushing it back to a time when fans will be allowed.

    Long form...

    They always knew 12/1 was a reach. But it was chosen with the hopes that they could so that players would still be able to play in Tokyo for the summer olympics. But priority has shifted to a timeline where fans will be allowed to attend games. Why? Fan attendance accounts for around 40% of the league revenue. So it will be what saves jobs, keeps players paid and the league fully capitalized. So they're both open to delaying the start to Jan/Feb/March, if needed. They're continuing to invest in technology and strategies that will promote safe, clean arenas and rapid testing if COVID still exists. Of course, if COVID is still around, it will be up to local government to make the call on whether or not stadiums allow fans or not. But that's their goal. So don't be surprised if you don't see the NBA until Jan/Feb/March 2021.
     
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    I think March is a safer date. But even by then, it's hard to envision a COVID-free world. It's gonna get better, sure, but unless vaccines are available massively and work perfectly (we'll see about both points), I think the NBA has to start considering other options. Like opening arenas at half capacity or even less, massively adding air purifiers with HEPA filters and try to get pro-active with other security measures. If their plan is to wait for Covid to go away, we might lose next season entirely.
     
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    They will have to do whatever they have to do...
    me having slight OCD ... I just keep wondering how they will ever get back ON schedule. Like what does that mean for the 2021/2022 season etc etc...
    I kind of like NBA starting in late December, because it won't overlap with NFL as much.
     
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    They either change their schedule from now on, or have a reduced season, kinda like the lockdown season, with less regular season games. Not sure what they're considering, because nobody knows what's going to happen.

    But they have to do a better job in terms of protocols to get fans back in arenas. Starting now.
     
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    I think the one thing that the pandemic taught me... where the heck were these disinfecting measures before COVID? Lol. And that goes for any and all businesses. Not just in sports.

    Anyways, I think they’re just focused on 2020-21. The seasons after that, they can fix. But figuring out to handle next season with or without COVID is their biggest obstacle and only focus.
     
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    Watching Milwaukee right now and oof, do they miss Malcolm Brogdon...

    I understand they're not a cash cow franchise, but the soon to be 2-time MVP is only 25 years old. Middleton as his only guy ain't it. Not when you had Brogdon and gave him away. And if Bada was here, he'd be eating Budenholzer alive lol
     
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    Yep, that was a huge mistake. Re-signing Bledsoe instead of Brogdon was a terrible decision.

    They look done, 3-0 and with their season almost over, seems like Giannis and Middleton are the only ones worth keeping long term in order to remain a contender. Don't know if changes will be coming to Milwaukee, but they should.

    I loved Budenholzer back in the day, but the more I see him coaching in the playoffs... the more I like Spoelstra. Not good.

    Also, we've already talked about Philly's mistake trading Jimmy Butler. Miami still can't believe their luck...
     
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    It’s just not a good look to not re-sign Brogdon. Your cornerstone is entering his contract year. If they don’t make a miraculous comeback, whether or not he signs the extension will be a dark cloud over their heads until he signs it or says he’s leaving. A shame as you hate to see it happen to a small market team.

    And Spolestra... it would never happen, but if Kerr departed from the franchise, he’d be one of my choices to be the successor. Love what he brings.

    As for Jimmy... I was reading excerpts from when he went on JJ Redick’s podcast months ago about what happened with Philly and it did not sound like he was too interested in returning even though they were going to throw the max at him. The culture there was similar to Minnesota where there just wasn’t a whole lot of accountability being held. Not everyone was serious about winning. And he wanted somewhere that matched his style. And look, Jimmy is a crazy SOB. And his leadership style may rub guys the wrong way. But I can’t fault him for bailing when he could. The post-Butler TWolves and 76ers sort of validated his thoughts. And he just fits the mold of a Pat Riley type player. What a match made in heaven.
     
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    On another note, this Lakers/Rockets series is a chess match. I don’t think Vogel should play match ups. He should just go big. And Rondo needs to not be playing lol. I get his history, but he’s a minus player right now. Caruso deserves those minutes.

    I’m curious to see how Denver tries to rebound. I don’t think they’ll get swept because of how the Clips have a tendency to let their foot off the gas too often. But they looked like a tired team getting beat up in game one.

    And dude... Boston. They need to come out and make a statement next game. They gave the champs a window. The Raptors seized it. And I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets to 2-2. Tatum’s gotta step it up, though. Kemba is the vet, but JT is THE guy there.
     
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    I think Jimmy was able to envision a KAT-like confrontation down the road with Embiid, then...

    I just really like this Miami team. They play hard, have a star in Jimmy, Bam has developed into an all-star and their young kids are proving they're ready to contribute (I'm talking about Herro, mainly). That and good coaching is going to make them a really tough matchup for anybody.

    Boston has the series under control. If they lose against the Raptors, it will be their fault. Toronto plays hard, but there's a huge difference in talent. The same can be said, with even more talent gap, between Denver and LAC. I think Denver will be able to win one game, maybe two (but I think one is more likely), but those two series shouldn't be really competitive.

    The one that has the potential to go seven games is LAL vs Houston. And yes, LAL should go big. But if they end up losing, the era of the big men might really be over...
     
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    Houston looked horrible vs OKC... They were lucky to get past them. With their competitiveness piqued after a 7 game series, they came out on fire while a Lakers team that has been sitting for a while looked flat. Let's hope they can keep the Lakers on their heels but I expect Lebron to answer back in game 2.

    Speaking of looking horrible... Every time I tune in Westbrook is committing errors that would cause him to get cut from the High School Junior Varsity team.
    Just awful passes and losing the ball out of bounds, dribbling off his foot. WTF is going on with him?
     
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    That has been Westbrook his whole career. He's just trying a little harder, which means more of his usual mistakes.

    It's gonna get worse with each coming season, he's not getting any younger...
     
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    He's the classic example of all athleticism and no bball IQ.
     
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    My friend who is a lifelong Lakers fan (he actually hates Lebron on the Lakers) texts me last night and asks if I'm rooting for "your Rockets".

    I replied with the barf emoji and "why can't they both lose?"
     
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    Well, as expected, I was wrong... lol

    Clips decide to take it easy, Kawhi has a poor offensive game and the Nuggets tie the series. I don't think there's reason for concern, yet. That's what the Clippers do.

    What's more concerning is Boston losing yet another game to an inferior Toronto team. And awful shooting night and a bad defensive third quarter killed the game for Boston. They just couldn't hit anything from outside. And part of the "blame" has to go to Toronto, but still seems like Boston lost the game more than Toronto won it. Weird series, 2-2 and we'll see what happens. Certainly seems like it will go seven games.
     
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    Giannis is out for the rest of the game. Miami now HAS to close the series 4-0.
     
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    Damn, that's what happens for talking. Don't really know how Miami lost this one, but hey, good for the Bucks for staying alive.

    As for the others series, the trade of CP3 for Westbrook ain't looking so good right now...
     
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    Premature to say only two games in, but yeah, if CP3 is still on that team, I’m more optimistic they win this series. If Covington was on their squad last year or the year before, I wonder how different those series with the Dubs would’ve went.
     

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