2019-2020 WC Seeding Predictions, as they stand Late July 2019.

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  1. TMC

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    Am I the only that, as good as he is, thinks Joel Embiid is out of shape?

    The Sixers are almost done, but Embiid ain't carrying them anywhere. And he's particularly bad in the second half of games. Haven't watched Philly much during the bubble, but seems to me it's a matter of conditioning with him.
     
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    I agree, he looks slow and heavy footed.
     
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    I think he’s been the same. I honestly don’t know how you completely recover after all the injuries he’s had being that size. That’s the only thing that makes me skeptical about investing long term in the guy. Hence, why they went after Horford (even though it was a still a bad fit).
     
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    That ankle injury for Luka looks like it’ll keep him out the rest of the series, thus ending the Mavs’ season. Unfortunate, as they really were giving the Clippers a run. But then Kawhi Leonard taking over happened, too.

    AD taking over in Game 2 for the Lakers was exactly the AD I remember watching in NOLA take over games. He’s gotta sustain that level of intensity because everyone says LeBron this, LeBron that... but when AD is on, who’s stopping him?

    OKC keeps pushing the gas pedal but they can’t keep up with Houston’s attack. The question, other than Westbrook’s health, is if PJ Tucker can continue to play at a high level playing all those minutes at center? Should be interesting to monitor.

    The Jazz could’ve been up 3-0 if they didn’t let Game 1 slip away from them. They’re gelling right now. Denver needs to help Jokic out.

    Fully expect the Bucks to win the next 3. Game 1 was an ass whooping that they needed. It woke them up as seen in Game 2.

    Siakam/VanVleet is a heck of a duo for Toronto. I look forward to the Toronto series with Boston next round.

    Speaking of Boston, losing Hayward was unfortunate. But fortunately for them, all they’re having to do is worry about Embiid.

    And lastly, I think this has been said before, but is there a more fun team to watch than the Heat? Herro and Adebayo are just awesome to watch. Playoff Iguodala brings back memories. And Butler going alpha mode is the best. They’re gonna give Milwaukee problems.
     
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    Dallas is a top 3 lottery team without Luka, a threat to a contender with him. Go figure...

    Also, seems I was wrong about Denver vs Utah. Other than that, the first round is going pretty much as expected...
     
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    It's so surprising to see Kendrick Nunn go from starter to not playing a single minute in the playoffs. I get he has missed time, and he didn't play well in the bubble and that Dragic is simply playing much, much better. He's replaced in the starting lineup, then. Fine.

    But not playing a single minute? WTF is happening with him in Miami?
     
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    It is strange. Miami has really found their stride in the lineups they’ve used, so maybe they don’t want to tinker it any more? Still.

    You know, everyone talks about Embiid as the guy the Warriors should pursue, but I think Al Horford would be a better fit. He’s more accustomed to a higher pace in an offensive set. You have to slow it down with Joel.
     
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    LUKA! Wow, what a defensive breakdown. How did Kawhi not end up on him? Still, an incredible shot and game by Luka in a game I had no idea he was gonna play in. And without KP.
     
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    I like this. Horford certainly feels like a more stable target in terms of you know what you are going to get from him. Definitely capable of spreading the floor too.
     
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    The thing is, would Philly take Wiggins + #2 for him? I’m not so sure. But the more information about Philly’s culture continue to leak out, urgency to switch it up could lead to desperation. That latest article about Jimmy Butler not feeling returning to Philly was bad.

    Idk, I like Embiid. But unless Kerr wants to run the triangle full on, Jo is not a fit. Horford is. High screener. Can knock down 3s. High defensive IQ. Him and Draymond would lock it down.
     
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    And you know Bada is on board with this! lol. Yeah man, I like it. Vet, screening, the 3s, the Defense, high IQ.. it all fits.
     
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    When you put it that way, Bada would probably return to the board more often no matter how busy he is lol! And if they offloaded Wiggins for Horford, then he might post everything in all caps!
     
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    Embiid and Horford are completely different players. It's true Horford would be a much better fit here (and Embiid would force us to completely change the way we play), but he has a really bad contract for a guy that's going to be 35 next season. I'd pass. Particularly if it involves sending them the #2.
     
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    Portland’s outmatched and out of gas. Losing Zach Collins hurt just because he’s another body to help Nurkic in the paint. The Lakers are one of the best in rebounding and defense. The Blazers had a great run, but we’re seeing this Lakers team returning to it’s pre-COVID peak.

    Meanwhile, much praise to the Dallas FO for finding players that make it happen even when Luka sits. The Clippers... again, their Achilles heel is their complacency. They’re so much like the 2018-19 Warriors, minus the previous titles.
     
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    Other than the nuggets v jazz series in which I was way off, I’m within 1 games on most of my predictions
     
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    Well, the Rockets and Clippers are in complicated positions now. Luka did it to the Clips (I don't know if complacent is the word, it's more like Paul George is playing like sh*t offensively, and the Clippers need him both and Kawhi to really be a contender) and the Rockets did it to themselves, you can't waste a 15 points lead in the third like that.

    Philly fired Brett Brown, who is a good guy that did a lot for the Sixers franchise, coming in in the middle of a savage rebuilding project. I think Philly owes him a lot for those days, but it's true he probably had to go at this point. Now they're focusing on hiring Ty Lue, which I think is a huge mistake. Another name they're considering is Villanova's Jay Wright, whom I consider a much better hire, although it's unclear how much interest he'd have in the opening. In any case, there will be changes in Philly for next season.
     
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    The Celtics took Game 1 convincingly. The Raptors will adjust. Nick Nurse is a great coach. But I just can’t see the defending champs taking more than 2 games from Boston. BOS in 6.

    With the Bucks/Heat. The Bucks are the favorites. But man, I can’t get over this Heat team. They are just so solid everywhere. I’m not saying they don’t have flaws, but they’re just a fun, tough team. MIA in 7.

    The West is still up in the air. Murray exploding in Game 6 to force a 7th game was fun. I honestly don’t know who’s going to win that. Either way, I don’t see neither Denver nor Utah getting past the Clippers. Kawhi wouldn’t let it happen. LAC in 6.

    If OKC manages to come back, I’m going with LAL in 5. If HOU closes out tomorrow, I’m going with LAL in 7.
     
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    I still think Boston has a very good chance to advance to the conference finals. But I wouldn't be surprised if Miami wins the series. They have a lot of bodies they can throw at Giannis, are deep and Milwaukee is reeling a little bit. Also, Dragic is playing his best basketball of the season at the right time, which is a big help for them.

    As for Milwaukee, seems like Middleton is back to his reliable self, but Bledsoe has been missing time and, even when available, he's not at 100%. It's going to be the best series of the second round.

    And we've got two games seven in the first round. That'd be a lot more interesting if they were playing in there own courts. In the bubble, anything can happen. Jamal Murray vs Donovan Mitchell has been great so far, and I expect that to continue in this last game of the series. And it'd be fun if CP3 were able to get rid of Houston in the first round (and I'm pretty sure D'Antoni would be fired in that case).
     
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    The Giannis slander just might be enough to push him to Golden State, says the subjective me.

    But it's not that surprising that they're down 0-2 even though that G2 ending was lame. Miami has so much talent and they have the personnel to defend Milwaukee effectively. I'm not sure what adjustments they can make as one of their biggest weaknesses is the lack of quality depth at the wings. Outside their 3 starters... Korver, Connaughton, DiVicenzo and Hill have been outmatched by the speed and versatility of the Heat's wings.
     
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